I will also note the last time that I attempted to move to the k grid it was about as smooth as sandpaper. Giving us a shutdown date less than 30 days, and during a major holiday timeframe is really not helpful. Planning for this should have been scheduled for a window with higher user availability.
On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 2:02 PM Maarten Dammers <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > The email I received was probably well intended, but felt like a threat to > sabotage my tools. The whole project already got me unhappy from the start > with tasks, contrary to Phabricator etiquette [1], being assigned to me > because I happened to be at the top of the list. I called out the person > doing that, but I never got a reply. I guess etiquette is not enforced for > staff? > > I probably have about 70+ jobs spread over several accounts that are at > risk. It feels like you're just dumping work in my lap without any benefit > for me as maintainer. I understand you want to make it easier to maintain > the infrastructure, but do you have any idea how demotivating this is? > > Maarten > > [1]: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Phabricator_etiquette > On 30-11-2023 16:41, Seyram Komla Sapaty wrote: > > Hello, all! > > Starting today we are kicking off the process to shut down Grid Engine and > we want to share the timeline with you. > > == Background == > > WMCS made the Grid Engine available as a backend engine for hosting tools > on Toolforge - our Platform as a Service(PaaS) offering. > > An additional backend engine, Kubernetes, was also made available on > Toolforge. > > Over time, maintaining and securing the grid has proven to be difficult > and making it harder to provide support to the community in other ways > because a lot of man-hours of maintenance work is spent on this. > > This is mainly due to the fact that there has been no new Grid Engine > releases (bug fixes, security patches, or otherwise) since 2016.[0] > > Maintenance work on the grid continued because it was widely popular with > the community and the Kubernetes offering didn't yet have many grid-like > features that contributors came to love. > > Once the Kubernetes platform could handle many of the workloads, we > started the grid deprecation process by asking maintainers to migrate off > the grid.[1] > > Over the past year, we've been reaching out to our tool maintainers and > working with them to migrate their tools off the Grid to Kubernetes. > We have reached out directly to all maintainers with their phabricator > ticket IDs. > > The latest updates to Build Service[2] have addressed many of the issues > that prevented tool maintainers from migrating. > > == Initial Timeline == > > The detailed grid shutdown timeline is available on wiki.[3] The important > dates have been copied below. > > * 14th December, 2023: Any maintainer who has not responded on phabricator > will have tools shutdown and crontabs commented out. Please plan to migrate > or tell us your plans on phabricator before that date. > > * 14th February, 2024: The grid is completely shut down. All tools are > stopped. > > If you need further clarification or help migrating your tool, don't > hesitate to reach out to us on IRC, Telegram, Phabricator[4] or via any of > our support channels.[5] > > Thank you. > > [0]: https://techblog.wikimedia.org/2022/03/14/toolforge-and-grid-engine/ > > [1]: > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Toolforge_Grid_Engine_deprecation > > [2]: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Build_Service > > [3]: > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/News/Toolforge_Grid_Engine_deprecation#Timeline > > [4]: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/6135/ > > [5]: > https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Portal:Toolforge/About_Toolforge#Communication_and_support > > -- > Seyram Komla Sapaty > Developer Advocate > Wikimedia Cloud Services > > _______________________________________________ > Cloud-announce mailing list -- [email protected] > List information: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/cloud-announce.lists.wikimedia.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Cloud mailing list -- [email protected] > List information: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/cloud.lists.wikimedia.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Cloud mailing list -- [email protected] > List information: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/cloud.lists.wikimedia.org/ >
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