On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Chip Childers <chip.child...@sungard.com>wrote:

>
> So if I was in your shoes, I wouldn't abstain from voting.


+1

I agree with everything Chip said.

QA testing is superb, and it's so great that we're doing it. But releasing
testing is something else, that is hopefully enough for everyone on this
list to run through at release time. If that is too onerous, then we may
need to simplify, or automate some of our release testing. But at the end
of the day, we're testing the release itself, and not the product, at this
stage.

The point about one's vote being as an individual is that Apache
> relies on these individual verification steps to be executed by
> multiple individuals.  That's also the reason why there are rules
> about a vote only passing if there are at least 3 PPMC/IPMC votes on
> the dev list, and then a second round of voting within the incubator
> general list where at least 3 IPMC votes need to be recorded.  This,
> combined with the community-wide vote having to have more +1's than
> -1's, is basically how ASF has delegated responsibility for verifying
> a release.
>

Just one note here. A -1 on release vote is a Big Deal. I would not release
anything with a -1 vote on it. Doesn't even matter if the vote is binding
or not. Personally, I would want to address the concerns of that -1 vote
until was changed, or I could cut a new release. And I would be
exceptionally surprised if I ever saw project release despite someone's -1
on the release.


-- 
NS

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