Wido den Hollander created CLOUDSTACK-1147:
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             Summary: cloud-setup-* should be removed
                 Key: CLOUDSTACK-1147
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-1147
             Project: CloudStack
          Issue Type: Improvement
      Security Level: Public (Anyone can view this level - this is the default.)
          Components: Install and Setup
    Affects Versions: 4.0.0
            Reporter: Wido den Hollander
             Fix For: 4.2.0


The tools like cloud-setup-databases, cloud-setup-management and 
cloud-setup-agent seem to come from the vmops/cloud.com time where CloudStack 
used to be a black box appliance.

Now more and more people start using CloudStack I'm seeing all kinds of 
criticism on these tools:
- They change files without telling the admin
- They punch wholes through firewalls

Those are two things which make sysadmins cry, especially if they want to 
manage their systems with Puppet or Chef.

The steps for setting up an Agent are actually not that big and most of them 
are actually already documented.

When a host is added through the GUI we shouldn't run cloud-setup-agent, but we 
should just check if the host is ready to be added and bail out if not. (And 
tell why)

The same goes for the management server and databases.

The databases is just a matter of importing the correct SQL files into the 
databases and populating db.properties with the correct credentials.

Setting up the management server is also just a matter of creating the correct 
configuration files, firewalling ports and setting sudo permissions.

We should tell system administrators what it is that he/she has to configure, 
not just do things without telling.

Documentation is key here I think.

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