Alex,

Putting on my systems administrator hat, I consider security updates a 
significant, if not, vital feature.  Since Oracle will cease issuing security 
updates for Java6 at the end of this month (February 2013), I think support for 
Java7 becomes compelling if not mandatory.  Since we will not officially 
support Java7 in 4.1, our users be forced to run on an unsupported JRE for 4-6 
months.  The question to my mind is not whether or not Java7 is supported in 
the next major release (with Java6 deprecated), but can we provide a 
remediation sooner that would allow our users to run on a supported JRE?

Thanks,
-John

On Feb 26, 2013, at 2:55 PM, Alex Huang <alex.hu...@citrix.com> wrote:

> I apologize for this.  I really meant popular distro versions instead of 
> "new".
> 
> We have to consider existing CloudStack users here.  They may want to update 
> CloudStack but have an existing OS deployment that they're perfectly fine 
> with and updating it means more complications in the upgrade process and 
> longer downtime.  I don't think we can cease support for 6 that quickly.  
> 
> In my previous work, support for an older Java version generally ceases only 
> when the newer Java version has features that we really want to use.  For 
> example, generics or annotations.  Is there anything Java 7 that we really 
> need to use in CloudStack?
> 
> --Alex
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe Brockmeier [mailto:j...@zonker.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:19 AM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Supported Java version
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013, at 12:38 PM, John Burwell wrote:
>>> +1 to the major version bump.
>>> On Feb 26, 2013, at 6:07 AM, Wido den Hollander <w...@widodh.nl> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 02/25/2013 06:36 PM, Alex Huang wrote:
>>>>> I don't think these things are mutually exclusive.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We should support Java7.
>>>>> We should keep supporting Java6 until it is no longer supported by the
>> new distros.
>> 
>> So - Oracle Java 6 is no longer supported by Ubuntu, at least, nor shipped 
>> any
>> longer.
>> 
>> OpenJDK 6 will wind down support this month, if I'm understanding things
>> correctly:
>> 
>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk6-dev/2013-January/002835.html
>> 
>> We should deprecate Java 6 in 4.2 - continue to support it, but be very loud
>> that we are going to cease officially supporting Java 6 after 4.2.
>> If that means we bump 4.2+1 to 5.0, then it's probably going to be time to do
>> so.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> jzb
>> --
>> Joe Brockmeier
>> j...@zonker.net
>> Twitter: @jzb
>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/

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