On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Joe Brockmeier <j...@zonker.net> wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013, at 02:34 PM, David Nalley wrote: >> Hi folks, >> >> Sorry for spamming two lists. >> >> We've been drafting some guidelines and had them reviewed by >> trademarks@ - and wanted to get them out in public for comment and >> discussion. >> >> Draft is here: >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Trademark+Guidelines+(DRAFT) > > So, we're currently missing any guidance on brand usage, not modifying > the logo, etc.
Yes - I want this - patches welcome. > > I've added a bit under the domains section, as I'm generally not a fan > of sending people scouring multiple docs for a simple answer. (Which is, > generally in this case, "no".) > > Under non-software goods: > > "Without explicit written permission, goods bearing any of the > CloudStack marks may not be sold." > > Are we explicitly allowing people to manufacture CloudStack-branded swag > to give away? What about co-mingling CloudStack with other marks, etc.? > (e.g., a design that mingles the CloudStack mark with a company logo > which might infer some kind of association between CloudStack and that > company?) > So we aren't explicitly allowing anything. Everything requires EXPLICIT permission from both the (P)PMC and Trademarks@. I was trying to provide a framework for every eventuality - especially since in the end they need two levels of permission. Besides I could see $SDN/Storage/Hypervisor company wanting to tout their CloudStack goodness in a way that doesn't suggest ownership or control. > I'd like change the current language to: > > "Merchandise bearing the CloudStack marks must be explicitly approved in > writing if it is to be sold or given away for promotional purposes. A > design must only be approved one time - it is not necessary to seek > approval to reprint/recreate new merchandise with a design that has been > approved, so long as the permission has not been revoked." > > Suggestions to this language welcome, but what I want to prevent is use > of CloudStack with third party logos where a company/organization is > promoting some proprietary product by giving away - but not selling - > merchandise. > I like the one time approval. > I don't want us to have unreasonable burdens, such as having to seek > approval every time a company reprints an approved design, or makes a > very minimal change to the design, such as printing a CloudStack jersey > with the names of contributors or something - where technically adding a > different name would be a "change" to the design. > > We should also consider having approved designs that anyone could use to > print t-shirts or similar without having to seek approval so long as the > design is used as-is. Do we care if someone starts up a side business > selling CloudStack shirts? > Ohhhh startup idea :) CloudShirts - wear your cloud.
