Sorry I meant John nailed it.
On Mar 5, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Mark Hinkle <mark.hin...@citrix.com> wrote: > I think Kelcey nails I think we have adopted the format of most Apache > sites but not sure that it provides a clear cut experience for each of our > there e > > - Prospects - Potential users that come to CS.org and want to learn > screenshots, feature list, video webcast, case studies of successful users > etc. > - User - Resources for users including user guides, documentation, support > mechanisms, IRC logs etc. > - Developers - Users who want to extend or integrate with CloudStack > including developer guide, wiki links to integrated technologies (e.g. > Puppet Manifests, Chef Cookbooks, Nagios Plugins, etc.) > > I think that should be a design point should lead each type of user down > the path. Right now we provide a smorgasbord and users of the site pick > their own adventure. Perhaps we should be more prescriptive to help > improve their success. I know Sonny floated a design already but I don't > think it addressed these points specifically. Maybe we could take the > feedback from this thread and have him do a rough wire frame and critique > it to get to where we need to be. > > Also I would be glad to donate a Crazy Egg or we could use Google > Analytics to figure out what people do on the site. Pre-Apache I knew what > things people used the most and helped make those things easier to consume > (screenshots, downloads and manuals where at the top of the list). > > Mark > > > > > > On 3/5/13 12:42 PM, "Kelceydamage@bbits" <kel...@bbits.ca> wrote: > >> I agree 100%, this is why I pointed out that at my company te ratio of >> frontent Dev/artists to back end is 2.2:1. Marketing is a different world >> then technology development. And it's generally lead by distinctly >> seperate visionaries. >> >> We can not approach marketing and website appearance from a developer >> point of view. The wiki is for devs/users, the website is for >> sales(accept without any money) and marketing. >> >> I think researching similar sites is important, and if we get a mock-up I >> am more then happy to have my web guys critique it, and provide >> suggestions. >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 5, 2013, at 9:05 AM, John Kinsella <j...@stratosec.co> wrote: >> >>> First thought: "noooooooooooooooo!" ;) >>> >>> Second thought: As ACS is a fairly major project and not a CI engine >>> (sorry, butŠ), our website has three purposes: >>> a) Get operational folks to want to try ACS >>> b) Get developers interested in contributing to ACS >>> c) Educate others about why ACS is so #@$@#$ awesome and they (or their >>> teams, or their companies) should be using it. >>> (feel free to expand/contrast on this) >>> >>> So, with that said - From my experience, the stereotypical Twitter >>> Bootstrap sites do not say that to me. They say "this is a site that was >>> quickly set up by a developer so he could get back to something else." >>> There's not a single graphic element on inria's site - except for 2 >>> buttons. Not pretty by any means, IMHO. I'm reminded of Ruby projects or >>> Github projects who think 15 lines in their README.md is AWESOME for >>> their project's website. >>> >>> Take a look at the other cloud provisioning project's site. Both looks >>> better and does a better job of communicating what it is. >>> >>> Here's a few sites I've seen recently that I consider "pretty" and >>> "modern" sites: >>> >>> https://jawbone.com/up - admittedly complicated >>> https://www.meldium.com/ - probably bootstrap based, but at least looks >>> good IMHO >>> http://www.qualtrics.com/ >>> http://couchdb.apache.org/ - Just pulled it up while looking through >>> the ASF project list - not bad! >>> >>> One thing that we should probably do - look at the websites of other >>> players in the space - OnApp, Eucalyptus, VMWare, etc. Our site has to >>> play at that level, not a website built for an engineer looking for a CI >>> platform (sorry, butŠ) >>> >>> I realize we need a site that's easy to manage and update, but let's >>> see if we can balance that with something that people remember. >>> >>> John >>> >>> On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:11 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, thinking about website designs, I ran into this one: >>>> >>>> https://ci.inria.fr >>>> >>>> It's simple, yet modern. >>>> >>>> I think something along this line with CloudStack logos and some good >>>> thinking of categories would work well. >>>> >>>> -sebastien >>> >>> Stratosec - Secure Infrastructure as a Service >>> o: 415.315.9385 >>> @johnlkinsella >>> >
