Thanks Ian.  I'll be trying this out later tonight, if time permits.  And no
problem on email from a second location.. :-)


-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Bruseker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: (clug-talk) Nvidia GForce Driver version?


Hand holding?  No prob.  :-)

So, on this page http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=linux_display_1.0-3123
you'll find the most recent GLX and kernel module versions.  GLX is near the
top.  That one, I really don't think you need to compile it.  With the
exception of the SUSE packages there, there are no distro-specific versions.
I think I downloaded the source just for giggles, but you should be fine
with the file NVIDIA_GLX-1.0-3123.i386.rpm.

As for the kernel module, wayyyyy down at the bottom of the page is
NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123.src.rpm (in the "Sources" section).  That's the one
you want.  As was mentioned, you will also need to install
kernel-source-2.4.19-16mdk.i586.rpm which is on your Mandrake 9.0 CDs
somewhere.  Then (as root, because it needs to write the rpm it creates to
/usr/src/RPM/RPMS/i586/) run "rpm --rebuild NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-3123.src.rpm".
Install that rpm with the "rpm -i" command.

You will also need to edit your XF86Config-4 file (in /etc/X11).  The
following is a snippet from NVidia's readme:

If you already have an XF86Config file working with a different driver
(such as the 'nv' or 'vesa' driver), then all you need to do is find
the relevant Device section and replace the line:

        Driver "nv"
    (or Driver "vesa")

with

        Driver "nvidia"

In the Module section, make sure you have:

        Load   "glx"

You should also remove the following lines:

        Load  "dri"
        Load  "GLcore"

if they exist.  There are also numerous options that can be added to
the XF86Config file to fine-tune the NVIDIA XFree86 driver.  Please see
Appendix D for a complete list of these options.

/end snippet

You can find the full file at
http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86_40/1.0-3123/README

Once you have done that, you will need to restart the X server (if you
aren't currently logged in, you can use Alt-E or pick the menu item from the
login window.  If you are logged in, you can log out and do the previously
mentioned, or just CTRL-ALT-Backspace to kill it hard - just make sure you
saved everything you were working on first).

Oh, and make sure you have another place to send email from, or can use a
text-based email program, in case it all goes wrong and you have to ask more
questions.  ;-)

Hope this helps.

Ian


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:30 AM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: (clug-talk) Nvidia GForce Driver version?
>
>
> Thanks for the info.... I think.  Please keep in mind I'm a
> relative newbie,
> and recompiling code like this is a bit new for me.  I'm used to compiling
> the business applications I write, but have never had to worry about
> compiling drivers or kernels.  So, I'm afraid I'll need a little
> hand-holding on this one.
>
> Ian indicated that I just had to do this command:
> "rpm --rebuild <filename>"
>
> In this case, filename would be the .rpm file for the Mandrake 8.2 distro?
> And to do this, I need the kernal source available on my drive?
> I'm pretty
> sure I didn't install the kernal source,  but that should be easy
> enough to
> change.
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> Shawn.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Bruseker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: (clug-talk) Nvidia GForce Driver version?
>
>
> Well, ok, if you had to download the kernel source, and that's 20
> or 30 meg
> or so, then I can see it taking a while.  :-)
>
> And a 1.2 _was_ blazingly fast.  I feel like a turtle compared to the 2.8
> P4s that are out now.  ;-)
>
> Ian
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bogi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:03 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Nvidia GForce Driver version?
> >
> >
> > :-)
> > Yea
> > Maybe i overestimated the 30 min. but it took a very long time to dl the
> > kernel src. and i had to do it , because i upgraded my kernel,
> > and no longer
> > had the src for the kernel i was running. Btw. The 1.2 Duron is a
> > blastingly
> > fast cpu :) compared to my oldfashion slotA 333 Celeron :-)
> > But yes, 30 min should be too much make it less then that .... :-)
> >
> > Cheers
> > Szemir
> >
> > On Tuesday 22 October 2002 08:41, you wrote:
> > > Szemir,
> > >
> > > Just curious, what all did you have to compile to get it to
> > work?  I have a
> > > TNT2 in my system and have recompiled the kernel module and GLX module
> > > numerous times over the years, and it only takes about 30
> > seconds or less
> > > per rpm (on my current system, a 1.2 GHz Duron.  Before that,
> a 600 MHz
> > > Duron, but that only took roughly twice as long, not several
> > hours).  Those
> > > were the only two modules I had to recompile to get it working with
> > > Mandrake 9 (after, as you pointed out, installing the kernel
> source, but
> > > you don't actually have to compile it, just have it there on the hard
> > > drive).
> > >
> > > Also, for Mandrake 9, grab the source RPM, not the tarball, and do
> > > "rpm --rebuild <filename>".  Like I said, it's very quick.
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bogi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:19 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Nvidia GForce Driver version?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi
> > > > No, I think you cant use the 8.2 drivers on your 9.0 mdk, but you
> > > > can grab
> > > > the source tarballs, your kernel source (you should have that on
> > > > the install
> > > > cd) and basically compile the driver (kernel part and lib part)
> > > > and install.
> > > > You need the kernel source to compile the module for the kernel,
> > > > you do not
> > > > need to recompile the kernel :-)
> > > > Then make sure you allow the designation of IRQ to the Video
> > adapter from
> > > > your BIOS settings. If everything goes well, you should be
> > > > accelerated within
> > > > a couple of hours (my box is a PII 333 celeron) so it does take a
> > > > good 30 or
> > > > so minutes to compile everything i needed.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Szemir
> > > >
> > > > Ps.: My card is nVidia Geforce2 MX 400 / 64M
> > > >
> > > > On Tuesday 22 October 2002 00:23, you wrote:
> > > > > Thanks to all the great folks that attended the Install Fest on
> > > >
> > > > Saturday -
> > > >
> > > > > and the long meandering abstract discussion over drinks
> > afterwards (for
> > > > > those that stayed).
> > > > >
> > > > > One of the things that was pointed out to me last week,
> and again at
> > > > > the install fest was that my GForce 440MX would likely need new
> > > >
> > > > drivers to run
> > > >
> > > > > everything right under Mandrake 9.0.  (specifically TuxRacer
> > > >
> > > > and Xine video
> > > >
> > > > > - that I've noted thus far).
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, I checked the NVidia site, and only found drivers for
> > > >
> > > > Mandrake 8.2.
> > > >
> > > > > So the question is "Can I use the 8.2 drivers safely with my 9.0
> > > > > installation?"
> > > > >
> > > > > Any input is greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > (BTW - was watching Drew Carey tonight - they had the
> > Mandrake screen
> > > > > on his computer monitor numerous times through the show - the blue
> > > > > "twist" one...)
> > > > >
> > > > > Shawn
> >
>

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