You'll like the direction Hans Reiser's FS is going then.  It's a long term
goal, but they'll get there.

They're looking at the AS\400, and moving even further in that direction.
Everything is part of the File System, and the file system is a database.

Kev.



----- Original Message -----
From: "S�bastien Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Should the unix fs be hidden from desktop users?


I don't personally think that the 'It can be explained easilly enough'
argument is a very good one, if someone told you 'You have to hit the clutch
pedal three times, then turn on your brights on then off, before gearing
into
reverse' you probably would think they were insane, or trying to sell you
some sort of american car.  There's no reason why a user need to look at
files in /usr/lib (for example) unless he's a developer or he knows what
he's
doing...and in which case probably knows how to use a terminal.  I like the
idea of devices appearing onto the desktop, one rarelly cares where the
device is actually mounted.


Le 26 Novembre 2002 12:04, vous avez �crit :
> One of the first things I noticed when I first tried MacOS X was that you
> would never know that it was a Unix system unless you opened a terminal
and
> hit cd /;ls I think that Apple has achieved a good balance between keeping
> the layout easy to understand for users of their classic system, while
> still retaining the traditional Unix infrastructure of the system.
> I just finnished reading a paper at
> http://evolvedoo.sourceforge.net/abstract/index.html which argues that the
> same thing should be done with the Linux desktop. I understand that the
> Linux file hierarchy can be confusing to users of MacOS classic and
> Windows, but I think that if it is explained correctly it is not too hard
> to understand at least the basics (ie. your files go in you $HOME dir,
> removable media can be accessed under /mnt, etc.). I was wondering what
> people on the list think. Do we need to hide the basics of the OS in order
> to make it more user friendly?
>
> Jesse




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