Again, you can not compair a windows 2000 install to a Gentoo install. Think about your logic here.
> Sure, but if I want that Gentoo box to have a GUI (I don't, but lets > compare apples to apples), My post install includes 4 hours of compiling > various KDE pieces. Then configuring, etc. > > The Windows post install is done just as fast as downloading and > installing an Nvidia driver for Linux. Or fixing the fonts. > > Maybe thats because I generally don't have a GUI on my Linux boxes, and > therefore have little experience with doing either of these things. But > I do know my way around Linux quite well, and it would still take me a > while to have a Linux box that compares to a legacy OS. > > Kev > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Trevor Lauder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 1:33 AM > Subject: Re: Re: (clug-talk) Linux Work > > >> Yep, post install of windows 2000 takes *a lot* longer then the >> install itself. To have a proper install you need to download the >> correct drivers for the NIC, Video Card, Sound Card and Motherboard >> INF file. Sure you could run it with what Microsoft says in their >> infinite wisdom it should be using but that is just plain silly and >> suicidal. A lot of problems on a windows box that you have a hard >> time figuring out or explaining can be solved by using the latest >> driver from the manufacturer... not from Microsoft. And if it's a >> server then you definatly should not be using the default drivers for >> things like the NIC. They are software people, they know jack squat >> about hardware, especially hardware someone else manufactured. Then >> you have service pack 3 (windows 2000) and service pack 1 (windows >> xp), reboot after that. DirectX, and reboot. Internet Explorer, and >> reboot. Whatever other updates are left, some may require separate >> downloads, installs and reboots before you can continue with the rest >> of them. The only reason you need to reboot a Linux box after an >> update is if you upgrade the kernel. >> >> > On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 19:33, Kevin Anderson wrote: >> >> Gentoo took me almost 4 hours to compile (stage 1, 2, and 3), on a >> Xeon 700smp box. >> > >> > Just remember that Gentoo takes longer to install than a binary >> distro. >> > >> >> Starting from nothing (Gentoo/Debian) and adding packages takes a >> long time. Likewise, >> >> Starting with more crap than I need (Red Hat/etc Put Windows in >> this category) and deleting it after the fact (Plus upgrading out >> of date packages, and patching) takes just as long as Windows. >> > >> > Upgrading packages in Linux always takes less time that in Windows. >> Whether it's apt, up2date, urpmi, or YOU it is just a matter of >> telling it to upgrade and off it goes, d/ls all the packages and >> installs them. It took me 3 hours to upgrade a Win 98 box since I >> had to reboot after every upgrade, and once the system came back up >> there would be an upgrade for the upgrade I just installed. That >> alone is reason enough for me not to want to use Windows. >> > >> >> Windows 2000 reboots exactly once during the install process. Same >> as Linux >> > >> > As I said above it's post install that is the killer. >> > >> >> I'm not done with a server for at least a day, regardless of the >> OS. Maybe I'm slow. I dunno. But I do find Windows faster. >> Setting up Printers is easier with Windows (What's the IP address, >> OK, Done) is easier than with Linux (Configure >> CUPS/LPR/LPRNG/Whatever, Configure Samba, Set up Samba to autoDL >> drivers) >> > >> > I don't have any problems with printers. Modern versions of Red >> Hat/Mandrake/SuSE always seem to detect and configure my printers at >> home and at work. Samba on the other hand can be a bitch, but once >> you have it setup for your network you can just copy the config. >> file to any new installs and it will work fine. Mandrake is pretty >> good about setting up a simple samba server. You just tell it to let >> users share files, and with the GUI any user can share a folder in >> their home dir. just as easily as in Windows. >> > >> > Jesse
