Yes, I suppose I could have been a bit more specific - I'm interested in the
"core" system, but beyond just the kernel.  Not so much things like KDE,
GNOME, Samba, Apache, etc.

To expand, all things core to getting any Linux system going (mostly at
startup, but that might apply at any time), such as, but not limited to:
-ramdisks
-init scripts
-devices and device configuration (e.g. /dev entries)
-root filesystem
-kernel(s)
-etc.

If I were to ask for it graphically, I would be requesting an systems
architecture diagram, not unlike:
http://home.us.net/~satterle/mcse/nt-arch/nt-arch.html

That way, I can dig in to the specifics of each topic, knowing where they
fit into the cohesive whole.

My problem is that if I just pick away at various things, I don't
necessarily come out with a good "big picture" understanding of the basic
system.  For instance, I can d/l and install from source, configure Samba,
etc. but I wasn't able to a boot disk without "rawrite cdrom.img".  :-(

Anybody know of anything like that link, either on the web, in
documentation, or that I could "learn to do by doing" (such as what I
imagine LFS is)?

Thanks,
Curtis.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) learning Linux - from scratch? ;-)


I'd say just use it.

When you hit a problem, google, and/or ask here.

Pretty much exactly what you've done.

Your question is pretty open.  Really, I mean, to know LINUX (the kernel) is
pretty easy.  Help write documentation for the kernel source.  But I suspect
you mean more than just the Kernel, and so then you best bet is just to
learn what you need as you go.  For example...  There's no point in learning
Samba if you'll never support a Windows user.  If you will, then Samba will
be one of the first things you'll want to learn about.  On the other hand,
if you're trying to set up a web server, then maybe you should leave Samba
until after you've got Apache (or Tux, WebSphere, Domino, or whatever...) up
and running.

Kev.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Curtis Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: (clug-talk) learning Linux - from scratch? ;-)


> "Gerard Beekmans
> www.linuxfromscratch.org
>
> -*- If Linux doesn't have the solution, you have the wrong problem -*-"
>
> ------------
>
> First - I had a laugh at your sig.  Variation on a theme, but I like the
> pro-Linux spin.  :-D
>
> Second - I linked to LFS and had a better look around than in the past
(I've
> heard of it before, but I didn't know it was headed up in my own
backyard!).
> ;-)
>
> After the Installfest (good fun, BTW! -- and I won a book!  Hooway!),
where
> I was trying to help a guy named Donovan load Slackware on a modified 486
> without a boot floppy (and, without a good clue about how to make one
> myself) :-(, I realized I need to know the inner workings of the boot up
> procedure, kernel load, etc. better than just "put in a bootable CD-ROM".
> :-P  So, I started building my own bootdisk using the
> ~/Linux-HOWTOs/Bootdisk-HOWTO and I've been learning a lot about boot vs.
> root, initrd, etc.  But there's lots more to know (in /etc alone) :-P, and
I
> was starting to get dizzy from the sheer number of all the other HOWTOs,
> etc. I would have to organize to get a cohesive understanding.
>
> Here's my question:
>
> What's the best way to get to know a Linux system intimately?  LFS,
> User-Mode Linux, HOWTOs, combination thereof?  Opinions welcome, including
> blatant self-promotion.  ;-)
>
> Thanks,
> Curtis.
>
>

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