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On Tuesday 11 February 2003 4:40 pm, you wrote:

Hey Curtis and Ian,

> Usually the "internal" mice on laptops are connected via PS/2 bus
> internally, so they're actually considered PS/2, and use a PS/2 driver,
> etc.

<blush> I knew that really...

> I never thought I would need a rescue floopy when I could just boot from
> CD, but I was wrong.  ;-)  lol

Well, hopefully we won't need to worry about this.

> Of course, you're laptop may not even have a floppy drive.  8-o

Her laptop has both a CD and a floppy in at once. My Panasonic is an either 
or.

> I never thought to check the BIOS settings, as were suggested - that's
> always a good place for laptops otherwise inclined to run Linux to fail.
> One little setting could make all the difference.

We did take a peek at BIOS before we went in to get the settings on the 
soundcard, the ever much maligned OPLSA3, grr. We'll have to see if there is 
a setting for PCMCIA that we can change.

Excellent tip Ian, muchos gracias!

> Thanks for the compliment, but I'm not sure how helpful I've been!  :-) 
> lol
>
> Good luck with the laptop, I'm sure you're wife will love SuSE in the end.

She's already (SuSE) green with envy over my laptop. It was heartbreaking so 
see her sad face when we couldn't get hers to work. Thanks again guys!

I'll post my findings later.

Jarrod

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jarrod Major [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: (clug-talk) (help) Laptop Issue
>
>
> Sorry should have clarified, this is the internal mouse toggle thingy. No
> PS/2
> mouse connected.
>
> I agree with you, SuSE's hardware detection should have caught this. I'm a
> little more than surprised.
>
> We were never prompted to create a rescue floppy... I believe there is a
> tool
> to do so from the CD. However, is that necessary if I can just boot of the
> CD? There has to be a way to get to something usefull from there...
>
> Thanks Curtis. You have my vote for one of the "most helpful guys" award
> today. J/K, overall there have been lots of helpful people today.
>
> Jarrod
>
> On Tuesday 11 February 2003 4:24 pm, you wrote:
> > Perhaps you can (temporarily) disable loading of the PCMCIA module so you
> > can work with your system live instead of from a CD or boot floppy?
> >
> > It would be a step in the right direction, although certainly not a
> > solution.  Even at that... drat BSD-style Slackware init -- I would tell
> > you to edit rc.d/rc.modules.  :-P  Not sure what it would be on a SysV
>
> box.
>
> > Of course, that step would have to be from a rescue disk (you did make a
> > rescue disk, right?).  ;-)
> >
> > Maybe the wrong PCMCIA chipset is being loaded?  That seems unlikely
> > since SuSE's been around the block and I think their hardware detection
> > routines must be pretty darn good by now.  Maybe there's a conflict?  If
> > there is, you could always disable PS/2 loading and tack on a USB mouse
> > or
>
> something.
>
> > That may not necessarily circumvent a hardware conflict so much as a
>
> driver
>
> > conflict.  I dunno.
> >
> > Sorry for not knowing anything about SuSE.  Just some brainstorming that
> > may or may not be of assistance.  Hope it helps, though.
> >
> > Curtis.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jarrod Major [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:16 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: (clug-talk) (help) Laptop Issue
> >
> >
> > Hey All,
> >
> > <knew I should have had my wife do her install at InstallFest>
> >
> > My wife has a Toshiba Satellite 2515CDS laptop. The specs are that it is
> > a Pentium II 233MHz machine with 96Mb RAM and a 4.1Gb HD. The machine has
>
> USB
>
> > and she's using my old 3Com CardBus NIC for Ethernet. She decided to take
> > the
> > plunge and blow away Windows on this machine in favour of SuSE (another
> > convert for Marcel).
> >
> > As I've already done several SuSE installs I figured this one would be
> > okay. I
> > looked up this model of laptop and as with most Toshiba's I found it was
> > supported. So we went through the install, nothing out of the ordinary,
> > it seemed to go in as we expected.
> >
> > Upon final reboot it hung at "Starting kernel PCMCIA". I know that the
> > NIC card worked with Mandrake and I believe it worked just fine under an
> > earlier
> >
> > version of SuSE. Just to be sure however, we removed the card and tried a
> > reboot. Same result. FYI, the NIC works perfectly fine under Windows.
> >
> > I did a more in-depth Google search this time and found that on some
> > Toshibas
> > the PCMCIA conflicts with the mouse. I'm not sure why this didn't come up
> > during the install (or my previous search). At any rate, I don't know how
> > to
> >
> > get past this and check any logs. The help I found was for a Red Hat
> > install
> >
> > and when I looked on my laptop for the files to edit I couldn't find
> > them. SuSE must have them somewhere else.
> >
> > Anyone encountered anything like this? There are about 17 or so more
>
> things
>
> > that occur after PCMCIA module is supposed to load. S�bastien recommended
> > throwing the install CD-ROM and escaping the install somehow and then
> > checking the logs. I was not overly sure how to do that.
> >
> > Thanks,

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