Yes, when I have a name resolution problem, I'm still able to ping my local
network devices - my "legacy" computer, and the firewall's internal IP.
However, I can't ping the firewall's external IP (or any external IP).  So,
my network connection IS functional for the local network at least.

When I do a route -n, I'm seeing basic routing tables, with a default entry
for the firewall's internal address.

A thought just occured to me - I read in the IPCop documentation that I
would need to put my local computers into HOSTS file to handle proper
internal name resolution.  When I browse to my web server from work, I
occasionally see it trying to access my internal IP - of course the page
fails at that point.  I'll try removing all my internal boxes from the HOSTS
file.  But that doesn't explain why I can't ping external IP addresses when
this condition is happening....

Shawn

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 6:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Weird name resolution troubles and IPCop 1.3.0


Can you ping the windows box or the IPcop box from the Linux box during one
of these outages?

I can't see your routing changing without manual intervention.
I can't see your IP adressing changing without manual intervention.

So I'd be expecting to see your network connection not working _at_all_
during these times.

Kev.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Shawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:13 AM
Subject: RE: (clug-talk) Weird name resolution troubles and IPCop 1.3.0


> k, I did the dig, and then tried to ping the name server here's the
results:
>
> dig www.google.ca
> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
>
> ping 216.123.198.243 (telus name server)
> -- just hangs trying to connect.... no responses at all.
>
> ping 198.80.55.1 (name server)
> -- just hangs trying to connect.... no responses at all.
>
> (both the above name servers are listed in my resolv.conf file)
>
> And for comparison, I tried to ping the same server from my windows box
> while the Linux box was waiting for a reply - the windows box received
> replies, Linux box didn't.  I was able to ping my windows box though, so I
> know networking IS working properly.
>
> My network config is as follows:
>
> firewall
>    |
> ------------------
>    |             |
> Linux server    W2K workstation
>
> Firewall is IPCop 1.3 with forwarding rules for ports 80 and 25 to the
Linux
> server.  only the red interface of the firewall has a dynamic IP address -
> the rest are static.
>
> Now, I think this indicates something isn't configured right on the Linux
> server.  However, I know that if I wait for a little while (not quite sure
> how long I'd need), I'll be able to enter the above commands again, and
> they'll work - with no changes at all.
>
> Things I've tried/checked - I now have 7 name servers listed in
resolv.conf.
> I've checkd my network config, and all seems correct - ip address and
> default gateway are getting assigned...  (default gateway is the internal
> address of my firewall - should I make this point to the external
address?).
> I'm not sure what else I should/could check.  Maybe I need to assign a
> static route or something?
>
> Thanks for any insight you may offer.
>
> Shawn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 4:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Weird name resolution troubles and IPCop 1.3.0
>
>
> Next up, can you what does dig show when you try to resolve a name?
>
> Kev.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 1:27 PM
> Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Weird name resolution troubles and IPCop 1.3.0
>
>
> > Out of curiosity, can you ping the DNS servers when you are recieving
> these
> > errors?
> >
> > kev.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Shawn Grover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:15 AM
> > Subject: RE: (clug-talk) Weird name resolution troubles and IPCop 1.3.0
> >
> >
> > > Well, adding the other name servers to my resolv.conf file didn't
> resolve
> > > the issue.  It appears that I loose name resolution after a period of
> time
> > > (somewhere around 5 - 15 minutes).  I'll do more digging over the next
> few
> > > days.
> > >
> > > Shawn
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Shawn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:52 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: (clug-talk) Weird name resolution troubles and IPCop
1.3.0
> > >
> > >
> > > The RED interface on the IPCop box is using DHCP.  All other
interfaces
> on
> > > my network are static.
> > > I've added the other IP addresses mentioned in the other responses to
my
> > > message, so we'll see how that goes.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the responses.
> > >
> > > Shawn
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kevin Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 9:32 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: (clug-talk) Weird name resolution troubles and IPCop
1.3.0
> > >
> > >
> > > If you're getting DHCP from IPcop, it will be caching DNS info for
you.
> > So
> > > I'd start by checking that it isn't affected first.
> > >
> > > Next, is the Gentoo box recieving a dhcp address?  Is it also
recieving
> > DNS
> > > from the DHCP server?
> > >
> > > I'd start by hardcoding the address and DNS settings.  If that doesn't
> > work,
> > > then try using a different DNS server (24.71.223.145 is SHAW, and
it'll
> > work
> > > fine for you).
> > >
> > > Kev.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Shawn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CLUG (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:30 AM
> > > Subject: (clug-talk) Weird name resolution troubles and IPCop 1.3.0
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'm seeing some weird things going on with my network.
> > > >
> > > > I have two computers behind an IPCop firewall.  One of the computers
> is
> > my
> > > > W2K workstation - it has no problems doing name resolution and
> browsing
> > > the
> > > > web.  The other computer is my Gentoo server and it will
periodically
> > > refuse
> > > > to resolve names.  It does this when I'm trying to install packages
> > > > sometimes, or even just trying to ping a remote server.
> > > >
> > > > I've just finished checking and reinstalling the IPCop firewall -
and
> > saw
> > > > the symptoms appear again immediately (ping www.google.ca failed to
> > > > resolve).  However, a few minutes later, it's resolving with no
> > problems.
> > > > The obvious assumption is that my server isn't setup right.  But
I've
> > just
> > > > checked it's hosts file, and resolv.conf file - hosts has entries
for
> my
> > > > local computers, and resolv.conf has entries for my name servers
> (well,
> > > > Telus' servers).  Should I not have my firewall computer in the
> > > resolv.conf
> > > > file?  Would that be the cause of this sort of trouble?  I've also
> > checked
> > > > the default gateway, and it's set correctly.
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone else running IPCop seen the same sort of behaviour?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any tips.
> > > >
> > > > Shawn
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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