Thanks Sam, 

Ah yes, the devil is in the details. The WINE site is indeed:

http://www.winehq.org 

Marcel :))

On Sat, 2004-01-10 at 20:27, bogi wrote:
> :-)
> http://www.winehq.org/
> cheers
> Szemir
> 
> On January 10, 2004 20:11, Marcel Lecker wrote:
> > Hey Folks,
> >
> > As I mentioned at the meeting, Nexus Computer Books is now stocking the
> > SuSE Wine Rack, and I've finally had a chance to get my hands on
> > it,...and let me tell you, it delivers. At $69.99, it's a steal!
> >
> > What it does:
> >
> > The SuSE Wine rack combines 3 great utilities in one package:
> > CodeWeaver's Office Crossover suite, its Crossover Plugin suite, as well
> > as TransGaming's WineX. These programs all use specially enhanced
> > commercial implementations of WINE. For newcomers to Linux, WINE is a
> > freely available project which aims for native support of Windows
> > programs (www.wine.org). The aforementioned programs build on WINE's
> > functionality and contribute portions of those refinements but use
> > commercial distribution models. Take home message? It will cost you a
> > little, but it may save you a lot of fussing about especially if you are
> > new to Linux or would rather just have things work conveniently and
> > quickly.
> >
> > Codeweaver's Crossover Office provides native Linux support for
> > MS-Office as well as a large number of other Windows based applications
> > (most notably Adobe Photoshop and Macromedia's Dreamweaver MX and Flash
> > MX). Codeweaver's Crossover Plugin is designed to deliver a number of
> > bowser plugins and browsing based applications such as Quicktime,
> > Shockwave etc.. Finally TransGaming's WineX is designed to deliver
> > Direct-X game compatibility via WINE. TransGaming claims title's such as
> > Diablo II, Warcraft III, Counterstrike and Half-Life all work without a
> > hitch. In addition to this, a reasonably entertaining little game called
> > Marble-Blast has been thrown in for good measure.
> >
> > The best part of Wine Rack is that you get all the individual pieces for
> > incredible value....$69.99 CDN to be precise (at Nexus here in Calgary
> > ...in stock now!) instead of roughly $150-170* if you order these
> > products individually. This is an amazing deal! ...as long as you use
> > SuSE :)
> >
> > Installation:
> >
> > Not surprisingly the appropriately named "Wine Rack" is designed for
> > SuSE 9 and intended to be installed via YaST as a "Patch CD Update"
> > (There weren't any instructions on the jacket or on the CD it self, but
> > having familiarity with similar products from SuSE, I quickly deduced
> > that was their intended installation method).
> >
> > Very painless, but the lack of instructions regarding this little detail
> > might make it quite a bit less so for a novice user.
> >
> > Looking around on the disk, I found that the actual install files are
> > all rpm based. I haven't the opportunity to try it yet, but I imagine
> > one could (with some expertise and experimentation) install this
> > software on prior SuSE versions and potentially even on non SuSE systems
> > as well, providing the necessary dependencies are resolved.
> >
> > Once the SuSE installer is done -if you're using KDE (on SuSE 9)- you'll
> > find handy menu items have been added for adding/removing software
> > configuration etc. Additionally, you'll find that Crossover Office adds
> > another folder on your SuSE 9 menu bar called Windows applications,
> > which is where it installs icons for your all of the programs you
> > install via crossover. Very Nice.
> >
> > If you're a Gnome user, things will lose their luster somewhat quickly
> > from here. The only icons that are placed in the menu are those of the
> > installed windows programs which is a lot better than nothing, but still
> > far from ideal. That may be fine and well if you regularly use both
> > desktops or are at least able to do so occasionally. Without a KDE
> > installation things are a bit more difficult and as such may require
> > launching binaries from a shell or creating your menu items.
> >
> > For convenience sake I've listed the shell commands and documentation
> > URLs for folks using Gnome (and possibly other window managers) below.**
> >
> > Both the Crossover set-up utilities as well as the TransGaming utility
> > will allow you to add and/or remove supported as well as unsupported
> > programs. They become in effect mini Control Panels which offer a number
> > of options.
> >
> > Conclusion:
> >
> > In conclusion I have to say that I am elated. This package means that I
> > may never need to boot into Windows again (I sure could use that space
> > for mp3s!). As much as I would like to see the world (or more
> > specifically my work place) adopt open standards, That hasn't happened
> > yet. I'm still regularly confronted with the need to edit existing
> > MS-Office documents. When that change happens, I'm ready. In the mean
> > time this I believe this the best solution that one is likely to find
> > find from both cost and ease-of-use standpoints.
> >
> > I also have the odd game that I'd like to play that doesn't have native
> > Linux support (Half-Life, Diablo-II, and Warcraft-III come to mind).
> > Because I much prefer working in Linux, I haven't played them for ages.
> > Being able to do so is a real treat and a terrific bonus, as I'm
> > comfortable spending money (when warranted) on productivity solutions
> > but am reluctant to spend money on playing games.
> >
> > As a result of installing the SuSE Wine Rack I am now able to
> > transparently access all manner of MS-Office files, and play games that
> > were not available to me outside of a Windows environment in one easy
> > painless experience.
> >
> > I'd recommend it confidently to any SuSE 9 user (Pro or Personal
> > Editions). This is truly a steal!
> >
> > Marcel
> >
> > CodeWeaver's Office Crossover:
> > http://www.codeweavers.com/site/products/cxoffice/
> > Codeweaver's Crossover Plugin:
> > http://www.codeweavers.com/site/products/cxplugin/
> > TransGaming's WineX:
> > http://www.transgaming.com
> > TransGaming's Marbleblast
> > http://www.transgaming.com/marbleblast.php
> >
> > * ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > CodeWeaver's Office Crossover:                      $59.95 US
> > Codeweaver's Crossover Plugin:                      $39.95 US
> > TransGaming (minimum subscription: 3 months):       $15.00 US
> > TransGaming's Marble Blast (Gold):          $19.99 US
> >                                             _________
> >
> >                                             $134.89 US
> > Currency Conversion (1.269 - Jan 10 2004)   $171.18 CDN
> > Note: shipping etc is still not factored in.
> >
> > ** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > office setup:                       sh -c /opt/cxoffice/bin/cxsetup
> > plugin setup:                       sh -c /opt/cxplugin/bin/cxsetup
> > office reset:                       sh -c /opt/cxoffice/bin/cxreset
> > plugin reset:                       sh -c /opt/cxplugin/bin/cxreset
> > simulate reboot:            sh -c /opt/cxoffice/bin/cxreboot
> > TransGaming control panel:  sh -c /usr/bin/Point2Play
> >
> > Crossover office documentation URL: file:///opt/cxoffice/doc/index.html
> > Crossover plugin documentation URL: file:///opt/cxplugin/doc/index.html
> 
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