did some more research on this...

apparently if port 1863 is blocked, MSN then switches to some random port above 1024 
using HTTP.  Next, I tried to block a specific server (messenger.hotmail.com) but that 
didn't work either - I guess MSN switches to another server is if the first can't be 
found....

hmmm... gotta wonder why they would make it so tough to "turn off".

Shawn

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Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 4:29 PM
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Subject: RE: [clug-talk] Blocking MSN with IPTables?


Thanks Pete.

Unfortunately, that code doesn't seem to be working.  I've placed the commands right 
after the enable masquerading commands, but no luck - we can still connect and send 
messages....

I even looked up what server we were connecting to (messenger.hotmail.com), found it's 
IP (207.46.104.20), and changed the second line.  Still no luck.  (and there are no 
#'s in the script either...)

Thanks anyways.

Shawn


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 3:58 PM
To: CLUG General
Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Blocking MSN with IPTables?
    To block MSN messenger:
    # iptables -A FORWARD -p TCP --dport 1863 -j DROP
    # iptables -A FORWARD -d 64.4.13.0/24 -j DROP

< Somebody that can confirm those 2 lines? >

They still can use web-enabled chat services...
And what if a user know how to port-redirect ... ?

My opinion : don't block it, educate/ask users, log, detect misuse, warn, and give 
pink slip so that he/she can use MSN @ home all day...

Peter


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