unleashed wrote:
Mark Lane wrote:
On January 20, 2005 10:07 pm, Travis Rousseau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well for Redhat I have one RHEL3 server and a few RH9 and FC3 computers.
From them there is a few main differences the first is support for
RHEL Redhat provides support right to you.
Yes and No. Because RHEL is released under the GPL you are able to install it without buying a support License. That's why White Box and Centos exist. What you don't get without the license is access to download binary updates from RedHat Network. They are required to make the SRPMS (source) available as compliance to GPL.
Also their are different levels of support, your basic support really only gets you access to the redhat network for downloading updates and basic support. You can buy higher levels of support online from their site.
I was talking about the differences between RHEL3 and Fedora core 3 that I get, I currently dont have any computers with White box or Centos installed so that is why i didn't include them in that message.
I was just clarifying what you said because it was it was not quite accurate.
For FC3 you find what support you can (You'll find it for everything!). The second main difference is your not using release packages (or at least
me) with RHEL3 your using old packages with security fixes back ported to older "Known to be fully stable".
Well that needs clarification. The update RPMS you receive from RedHat for Enterprise won't be the newest releases from the upstream but mostly patched versions of the packages available when that version of RHEL was released.
If the security threat requires an upgrade to a newer release RedHat will do that but only if they have to.
Well some of the programs that installed with RHEL3 were not the latest version of the programs when RHEL3 was released though some were right up to date.
Now with fedora core you get the packages at release time and they have undergone little if any testing so you do not know how well it
will react in the situation it is put in and you must worry about
package discrepancys.
That statement only reflects FC Devel.
The Fedora update packages have been tested in the Fedora community prior to release and contain mostly security fixes or minor updates. Major updates are saved for new releases of FC. There has been some mistakes in publishing that have caused some dependancy issues but mostly that's due to new updates being released prior to some of their dependancies. Often the issue is resolved later that day or the next.
But this can be a major problem if your running an important server. With desktops and non important servers its possible to wait that day or two.
In most cases these issues were not security updates.
I actually had this problem with one of my computers (one that ran FC3 at the time) a few weeks back that was also a server for my local intranet, I just waited 2 days and then it was fixed not much of a problem but for my business server (runs RHEL3) if it would have happened it would have cost me hundreds for every day it was down I dont have the money to hold my business if it was to happen.
2 days? You must have been using a mirror that's having problems.
Why would your server be down? The dependency problems prevent you from updating, they should not bring your system down. Your server can still run on the older packages. In most cases, the updates are release long before a viable exploit is written. If you need them faster you can always patch the packages yourself. Or use a temporary fix.
I know there was an exploit for the recent PHP bug came out about as soon as it was announced but the exploit required bugs in both the application (like phpBB) and PHP. The patch for phpBB was released pretty much right away and as long as you applied it you were safe.
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