Graham wrote: >On Sunday 29 May 2005 23:18, Robert Lewko wrote: > > >>On May 29, 2005 08:58 pm, Graham wrote: >> >> >>>On Sunday 29 May 2005 18:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Quoting bogi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>> >>>> >>>>>http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/29/1711214&from=rss >>>>> >>>>>No Comment >>>>>Szemir >>>>> >>>>>Ps.: The comments are on /. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>I simply can't imagine something more frightening than trusting >>>>sensitive info to a database like this. Am I not mistaken in saying >>>>that the .not infrastructure is not the most secure thing on earth. >>>>Even if this were to be kept in a IBM mainframe in DB2 I'd have a >>>>problem, but .net?!!! >>>> >>>> >>>It's worse than that, It doesn't matter wether such a thing is secure or >>>not, such a horror CANNOT succeed in it's stated objectives. What it can >>>do is provide a way for those in power to STAY in power. It doesn't even >>>matter if you trust the people who currently hold the power, what about >>>the those that come after? How can you be sure EVERYONE who is given this >>>power will use it for good? >>> >>>If you can track peoples movements, actions, spending habits etc, etc. >>>You can find something negative about ANY group of people, enough >>>to discredit any political power they might try to wield. >>> >>>Here is a nice quote from one of the comments on /. >>> >>>"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. >>>The U.S. government will lead the American people in -- and the West in >>>general -- >>>into an unbearable hell and a choking life." - Osama bin Laden, Oct 21, >>>2001. >>> >>>This is the true horror of 9/11, it's still happening. >>> >>>I wonder how many people in the states understand the title of >>>Farenhiet 911? >>> >>> >>I do indeed understand the meaning of that title. Just for people reading >>this who don't know what we're talking about, Michael Moore borrowed the >>title "Fahrenheit 451" which was coined to refer to the temperature at >>which human flesh starts to burn (sorry for the graphic nature - but thats >>where it came from). Michael Moore used Fahrenheit 911 is limit where >>truth can no longer endure. He was referring to the "Patriot Act". >> >> >> > >Ummmm no, Fahrenheit 451 was referring to the temperaure at which paper >spontaneously combusts. The book ( by Ray Bradbury ) is about a world where >books are banned. > >graham > >_______________________________________________ > > Yes, Graham, Fahrenheit 451 is the temperature at which book paper burns and books are banned in that society. But the analogy is not that far fetched for Fahrenheit 911.
One could say with much unscientific poetic license that Fahrenheit 911 was one of the temperatures reached and indeed exceeded in the twin towers, and that civil liberties are banned in the United States and Canada as of 2003 /09/11. The reason I say it is unscientific poetic license is that the steel girders in the twin towers reached a temperature much higher than 911deg F. However in Ray Bradbury's book and contemporary Canadian and United States society Civil rights and Truth died as is indicated in the Mayar Arar case. regards, Michael Walters _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
