(The letter 'yoo' is malfnctioning on this keyboard so excse the typos.)
Yikes!!
Proposition 'saoonds' scarry! and maybe challenging too.
Since time is (as always) not there - (I only have the remaining month to
finish server(basics+samba+apache+database+email++), I will try to get on with
the initial install on spare (old) machine tonight. I can only cart, if needed,
the old box, not the new.
Thanks for the offer to help. I am game.
Dharam
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It sounds like your hardware is newer than the Linux kernels compiled into =
the=20
various distros. I've seen similar problems when installing onto obscure=20
hardware (not all distros are prepared at startup to deal with raid=20
controllers). This normally means you have to update the kernel source, an=
d=20
then enable the appropriate drivers within the kernel to recognize the new=
=20
hardware. But this step is likely beyond a new linux user, so frustrations=
=20
ensue.
The thing to keep in mind is that Linux is not the true culprit here - the=
=20
hardware seems to be. Granted, modern Linux distros *should* be able to ge=
t=20
at least a base system installed, but sometimes this isn't the case.
As suggested, you could try to install Mandrake on a different box, and=20
compile a kernel for the first box. Then it's a simple matter of=20
transferring the kernel file (it IS a single file), to the appropriate plac=
e=20
on the new box and trying it out. Unfortunately, this requires rather=20
detailed knowledge about the hardware in question, and some comfort working=
=20
with kernels and boot loaders.
Perhaps this is a case where it would be much easier if you can hook up wit=
h=20
an advanced user and have both of you sit down at the box and work through=
=20
the install? I'm sure there are a few people on the list who would be=20
willing to help (myself included).
With regards to Enterprise versions.... These are typically based on=20
older/less cutting edge versions of packages that are considered stable. =20
Other than that, the only real difference is on how much support the compan=
y=20
is willing to give you before you need to pay for more. With a little=20
patience and searching, this becomes a moot point as you can find almost al=
l=20
the support you need online.
Something is tickling the back of my mind... Is this a case where you have=
to=20
tell the boot loader to start up with SATA support? Or whatever drivers ar=
e=20
needed to get going? I'm not familiar enough with Mandrake to know the=20
options available to you there, but maybe this is a place to look. When yo=
u=20
see the boot menu (i.e. boot from hard drive, new install, etc.) try hittin=
g=20
=461 or F2. Sometimes you see tips there on how to start with different=20
drivers or settings, or even different kernels. Just a thought.
Shawn
On Wednesday 05 October 2005 14:56, D Bhardwaj wrote:
> I tried the kubuntu 5.10 preview. It hung shortly after starting. My
> limited knowledge wasn't enough to figure out what it was complaining
> about. I am searching through ubuntulinux.org FAQ to see what I can find.
>
> I am not familiar with rsync.
> Can I install mandrake on another machine and then somehow 'copy' it over?
> But the h/w is all different?
>
> Besides support, what is the difference between Enterprise and configuring
> install based on selected packages?
>
> Dharam
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> On Tuesday 04 October 2005 16:04, D Bhardwaj wrote:
> > General question on installs:
> > I have new hardware and my install fails because it can't even recognize
> > the cd-rom even though it starts reading the CD, gets to the next screen
> > after USB detection and fails on cd detection? I switched to ubuntu for
> > t=3D
>
> he
>
> > heck of it. It loads the os but doesn't recognize the nic or sound, may=
be
> > other devices I haven't checked yet.
>
> Try the kubuntu (http://kubuntu.org) breezy preview, I believe it has a
> ver=3D y=3D20
> recent kernel (vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386) which has better support for hardwar=
e.
>
> Generally I check hardware with knoppix or another live CD (I had a
> kubuntu=3D =3D20
> live CD with me when I bought my laptop) as long as it could see the
> hard=3D20 drive I was pretty sure I could get the rest of the system runn=
ing.
>
> > What is the general work around in this situation?
>
> You could also take the hard drive out of the new computer, put it in the
> o=3D ld=3D20
> computer, rsync the old drive over to the new, and build a kernel that=3D=
20
> supports your hardware. USB enclosures are awesome for this sort of
> task=3D20 (actually they are pretty handy to have around for a variety of
> tasks).
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> > Dharam
>
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