On Wednesday 22 March 2006 11:22 am, Gustin Johnson wrote: > Nick Wiltshire wrote: Wow, this thread got severely hijacked :P
> > Shaw is brain dead. Close port 25 for non business customers, problem > > solved. > > This is the wrong way to go as it does not solve a problem, in fact it > causes more. I use shaw as my ISP, but I _expect_ to be able to make an > SMTP connection to anyone I like. I use TLS + SMTP auth on my own > server and I would be very upset to be forced to use Shaw's SMTP > servers. ...It is more upsetting as a SOHO customer who is paying more to have the entire network block blacklisted so now I can use port 25, but it's worthless. I can't email my sister in the States because her ISP has shaw blocked. > SSL/TLS secured services are a good thing, especially for > remote/road warrior users where a VPN is simply overkill. Blocking > outbound SMTP connections prevents this. > That's why you leave it open for business customers - or even be willing to open it up upon request. SPAM is a reality, bots are a reality, blacklists are a reality. Ignoring them is not a good policy. Blocking outbound port 25 sucks, but what is the alternative? > Closing port 25 inbound to the end user does not really solve anything. > It is the outgoing traffic that carries SPAM. No arguement here. Though it does stop "home" users from running a mail server. > > > Telus goes too far the other way...IMHO :) > > > > This is really biting Shaw in the ass though, not the first time it's > > happened :s > > Even if rejected due to being listed on an RBL, mail should bounce with > an error, not disappear. At least MS got that right. > > Out of curiosity, what did the bounced message say? > > > On Tuesday 21 March 2006 11:41 pm, Martin Glazer wrote: > >> It may just ba a problem with your shaw email address which MS is > >> rejecting. > >> > >> Just heard today from someone at MS that they cannot receive any email > >> from a @shaw address - I experienced this with one of my clients as > >> well. > >> > >> Looks like Shaw got one of their email servers listed on the Sorbs RBL > >> and are having a hard time getting it removed. Started happening on > >> Friday night. > >> > >> Martin > >> > >> On March 21, 2006 18:40, Tek Budda wrote: > >>> Sorry for the off-topic post but I am looking for Barnaby Jeans. He is > >>> the guy who facilitated that seminar down at the Stampede grounds about > >>> a year ago. > >>> > >>> I thought I had his e-mail but when I e-mailed him under two different > >>> e-mail addresses they both came back. > >>> > >>> I don't know if Barnaby is till around or not, but if he is can he > >>> contact me? > >>> > >>> Sorry again for the off-topic post. > >>> > >>> Cameron > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> clug-talk mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > >>> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > >>> **Please remove these lines when replying > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> clug-talk mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > >> Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > >> **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > _______________________________________________ > > clug-talk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > > **Please remove these lines when replying > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
