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Andrew J. Kopciuch wrote:
> On Sunday 23 April 2006 14:51, you wrote:
>>> PuTTY is not the way to run KMail on windows ;-)
>> Actually, it sure is :)
> 
> I disagree ... how many actual cases of this really occur?

Well, I use it, and from my perspective that is all that really matters.

> 1.  Just because the ability is there does not mean it is good idea.
> Sure it is possible, but so is reading your mail by running cat
> /var/spool/mail/gustin ... I don't think you do that now do you?

Actually, sometimes I do, and it is /var/spool/cyrus/mail/u/user/username

greping locally is far faster than using my webmail search or using
thunderbird remotely.

> 
> 2.  The standard UNIX mentality is having applications doing their
> small scope of tasks and doing it well.  PuTTY is a remote session
> interface ... it is not a remote desktop interface.  Sure you can
> launch X11 forwarded applications to a PC X server ... is that the
> paradigm PuTTY was meant for ... I would say no.

Putty is no different than the openssh client.  ssh -X is just as valid
as putty as X forwarding in Putty.  Would running ssh -X from cygwin be
any better?

> 3.  The whole idea of expending effort to run X11 applications on
> windows is working against the community if you ask me.   If windows
> users are always provided a way to run these desired applications
> without actually running the operating system they are built upon,
> what incentive is there for people to ever stop using windows?

You are entitled to your opinion, but by your argument, firefox and
thunderbird work against the "community" (which community?  Your little
corner of the net, or mine, or any other user?  Be careful with the word
community).  The proliferation of OSS apps on other platforms make the
platform irrelevant.  If you can run all of your apps on Linux, windows,
or OS X, then you are free to switch.  This is IMO how to break the
current model.  My dad still uses windows because MS Office is a windows
only app (he is over 60, if you want to support wine on his system, then
you are happy to, and please, no one mention the horror that is OS X).

He does nothing that requires Word and Excel (OOo calc or gnumeric do
everything he needs), but he is unwilling to switch.  At least with
win32 alternatives it is possible to wean him off of his dependency.

Also, I don't always have a choice of my platform.  But managing windows
servers is a whole lot nicer with cygwin around.





The whole point of FOSS as I see it, is to make good software.
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