bogi wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oIot3Qxu_U&mode=related&search=

I am not a big "Tuber" by I did take a look at some of the ads.  I 
particularly like the one with the different browsers with the faces, 
the Global warming one, and the IE 7 Baby ad (only males will appreciate 
that one).

But to keep this is at least semi-on-topic I wanted to share an incident 
from work regarding IE 7 vs Firefox.

According to the browser requirements for our site, our web app only 
"officially" supports IE 5.0 and up & Netscape on Windows machine.  In 
talking with our developers though, they have stated that they also 
support firefox as well...which is awsome.  I should say that I have 
also got the site working on OS 9 & 10 and most importantly Linux, which 
has helped us out considerably.

So heres the poop.  Recently we started getting complaints from our 
users (very tech-newbie, non-computer savvy, older, resistant to 
change...you get the idea) about the certificate on our site being 
revoked.  Now being the SysAdmin I registered the certificate myself and 
  I can gaurentee that that is not the case.

Well after doing some digging the only commonality I could find was that 
these users were using IE 7.  Now keep in mind that IE 7 is still beta 
and is not currently available (as far as I know) through update or any 
other way other than specifically downloading which none of these users 
remembers doing.  Becasue teh SSL is so important to ur site, having the 
cert "revoked" automatically blocks them from the site.  IE 7 did not 
have any indicators (that the users could find anyways) that the site 
was using SSL (the lock icon, etc.) and would not allow the cert to be 
installed in any of the tradiotional fashions.

In the end I needed to disable the "Check for publishers cert 
"revocation" option under the security section of the advanced tab in 
internet options, then go into the page properties from the file menu 
and install the certifcate by clicking the button then going through the 
wizard to install it.  Whew!  Hardly simple and easy for the average user.

You would think that a browser that is basically the same as it 
predecessors would allow the same functionality and if anything would 
get better with a newer version.  But here you have what is supposedly 
to eventually someday...if it ever gets released...be the browser to 
revolutionize the net (MS-speak), that not only sneaks onto a computer 
but also cripples a core technology, that worked fairly simply in the 
previsouly versions.  Argggghhhhh!!!!  More phone calls to the help desk 
coming! :-P

The good news in all of this that each version of Firefox that I have 
installed has worked flawlessly out of the box on WIndows boxes to 
access the site.  The only thing I need to do was click one button once 
to install the cert and go on my merry way.  FF on Linux requires one 
extension and no report of FF on Mac yet.  Now I can't speak for the 
upcooming firefox 2 but I would imagine it would be just as seemless to use.

Yes.. long winded post, but shows the difference between open and closed 
source technology development and the true motivations behind why 
software is developed in the first place.

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