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>> It is too premature to do anything, but I think you are right.  It looks 
>> like Novell is using Suse as a pawn to protect their traditional IP.  It 
>> looks like this move will likely be negative publicity for Suse, Novell 
>> and MS.  The clear winner in the deal will likely be MS financially if 
>> they pull it off.
> 

>> It really bothers me how the general public thinks Bill is such a 
>> philanthropic guy with his work in Africa when MS is continually 
>> embroiled in such unsavoury activities and hidden agendas.  Either he is 
>> a really good guy and is socially totally inept and does not see what is 
>> happening in the corporation or he would make a great politician.

Since this thread is laced with quotes... "never attribute to malice
what is better attributed to incompetance".

Of course Bill does far more than Steve Jobs over at another evil
company.  Yes Mike, Apple is still evil (DRM loving, Darwin killing
opportunists).  I still view Apple as a bigger threat since a number of
people view them as not Microsoft so therefore good.

>> Sorry, not trying to slam the company but would really like to 
>> understand where they are coming from.  With all the news feeds 
>> headlines I get, the IT community thinks alliance is a good thing, 
>> however the Linux community thinks it is bad.
> 

Well, in theory it should make interoperation easier and therefore
cheaper, so I can see why a business orientated IT community would see
this as a win.  AFAIK, Linux and Windows already inter operate (largely
through the efforts of the OSS community, but I am continuously
impressed with some of Microsoft's documentation to enable inter
operation, it is scarily excellent), so I am not sure what benefits we
will actually see in the real world.

>> So is there anything we can do to enlighten the general population 
>> (there are a lot more IT type people that read eWeek, PCMagazine then a 
>> blog on Groklaw or Linspire)?

Continue to improve, innovate and generally just be better.
Installfests are good, Linuxfest is also good.  Workshops are also good
(we haven't had one in a while).  These activities involve people who
may not already be involved.

I also am very inflexible with respect to pirated software.  Piracy
helps Microsoft, so friends and family do not  get VLK copies of their
OS and apps.  If everyone actually paid for their software, they would
realize what a bad deal most of the MS centric stuff is.  Microsoft
Office really is better than Open Office, but not $600+ better.  Having
said that, Koffice meets more than 95% of my needs.

There is also a very MS centric IT users group in Calgary
(http://www.calgaryitpug.org/).  It is aimed at "professionals", so some
of us who make our living in this space should probably participate
more.  The first non-MS sponsored presentation is this month.

>> I think the best headline I have seen yet was from Zdnet "Fox marries 
>> chicken, both move into hen house"
> 
> Shawn
> 
> Mitchell Brown wrote:
>  
> 
>>>> Thanks Shawn...
>>>>
>>>> I move that we add *buntu to the "popular distributions" list, since
>>>> what appears to be the majority of us meeting-goers run that on our
>>>> notebooks.
>>>>
>>>> Opinions?
>>>>
>>>>    
>>>>
>>
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