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Curtis Rempel wrote:
> On Monday 27 November 2006 02:14, Gustin Johnson wrote:
>> Sadly my experience has been with Active Directory storing the contacts
>> and lists.  If you need to accept mail via distribution lists I can
>> probably help (ie exim/cyrus integration with Active Directory).
> 
> Since the organization wishes to remain free of M$, AD is not an option.

AD is usually only an option when it has already been deployed, why
reinvent and repay for the wheel :)

> 
>> Probably the best thing to do is to download the Kolab VMWare image from
>> vmware.com  Also grab the vmware player.  There is no substitute for
>> actually trying this out.  Kolab uses LDAP btw.
> 
> Didn't know about the VMware Kolab image - will try that out.  Yes, I was 
> aware that Kolab uses LDAP.
> 
>> You may also wish to check out Luma, a KDE LDAP GUI client.
> 
> Thanks, I've seen that one as well and it's a nice interface, but 
> unfortunately doesn't do dist lists.
> 
>> By maintaining the back end, I assume that you mean
>> adding/changing/deleting contacts and lists?  If you are having problems
>> then it is likely a permissions issue.  Anonymous binds are read only by
>> default.
> 
> No problems technically, just that extremely novice users are involved.  
> phpldapadmin is a great tool, but not in this case for that reason.  
> Maintaining address info via the Kolab interface would be preferable.  I'll 
> just have to bite the bullet and config it myself or try the VMware image.

Even a "standard" install is not that difficult, the README pretty much
walks you through it.

> 
>> If you have shared IMAP folders you may be able to get away with storing
>> your contacts in a  shared IMAP folder.  I know this is possible, but I
>> have never tried it (this is supported in kmail btw).
> 
> I've been toying with this very idea but haven't tried it yet.  Do you have 
> any specific references/pointers to relevant info on this?
> 

I have not seen a solid how to, mostly just vague references, that and
there are some options in the kmail/kontact settings.  I have not got
much further than clicking the check box and seeing what happened.  My
experience was that it was not very robust, but then I did not go any
further than this.

>> My preference would be an LDAP solution which is somewhat MUA agnostic
>> (I dislike using Kmail/Kontact more than Outlook 2003).
> 
> LDAP would be my preferred solution too.  In this case, Kmail/Kontact is the 
> required MUA.

I personally use thunderbird, I have a couple of LDAP addressbooks that
work great in thunderbird.

> 
> Thought I'd test the waters to see what if anybody else has had 
> success/failure with before I got my feet too far in.

I am in the middle of a messaging eval (Open Exchange, Kolab, etc) as
well as several commercial offerings.  I have not really gotten any
further than getting wet.  Please let us know how you are making out.

Cheers,

> 
> Thanks!
> 
>> Hth,
>>
>> Curtis Rempel wrote:
>>> Here's the scenario:
>>>
>>> A number of Kontact users on a local network have their own address books
>>> and corresponding distribution lists.  There is the need to have a global
>>> address book and dist lists to avoid the obvious pitfalls of maintaining
>>> multiple copies.
>>>
>>> While Kontact can hook into an LDAP back end, maintaining that back end
>>> using some sort of external interface (since it cannot be done within
>>> Kontact) is problematic - either the standard command line tools or
>>> something like phpldapadmin would do, but in both cases, administration
>>> by end users is required and neither tool is appropriate for the skillset
>>> at hand.
>>>
>>> Further, global distribution lists are required from the global address
>>> book which is not something I think is possible just using the simple
>>> LDAP connection alone with Kontact.  If I'm wrong about that, please
>>> chime in.
>>>
>>> Before I go wandering off into the Kolab wilderness, never to be heard
>>> from again, does anybody know if Kolab supports this global dist list
>>> capability? I know you can hook Kontact into Kolab and use the
>>> addressbook that way, but what I am not sure is if that global address
>>> book provided by Kolab will also let users use dist lists globally in the
>>> same way that they currently do with their own local copies.
>>>
>>> Does anybody have any experience in this area and know for certain if
>>> this will or will not work?  I'm having some difficulty trying to nail
>>> down this feature in the docs without going through the trouble of
>>> setting of a test environment.
>>>
>>> Alternatively, is there something else that would work for a global
>>> address book and global dist list with Kontact?   There is no requirement
>>> at this time for anything other than the address book and dist list
>>> features of Kolab so Kolab might be overkill if something else will do
>>> the trick.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any insight!
>>>
>>> Curtis
>>>
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