Hi Dana,

Thank you for your information and references, particularly Vancouver
based http://www.netvoice.ca/ .

I have been reading a great deal at http://www.voip-info.org/ and their
Canadian VoIP info page
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Canadian+Users .

In addition to the voip stores you mention, I also found and looked at
Montreal based http://www.voipgizmos.com/ and
Mississauga based http://www.voippabx.com/

After plenty of researching on Asterisk and Digium, I came across one
real gotcha with Digium hardware: the Digium TDM400 requires a well
cooled case since this card "hates heat" according to the poster.

So in order to set up our pilot Asterisk pbx with (2) 2-line IP phones
and 1 analog phone for 2 incoming lines, I have "narrowed" the specs
down to this:
= 2 IP phones with good sound quality in the $130 range. I'm considering
   the Snom 300 (4-line), the Grandstream GXP-2000 (4-lines), and
possibly the Linksys SPA941 (2/4-line);
= 1 reasonably priced FXO /FXS combination card of good sound quality.
(This item appears to be _the_ major VoIP expense item for a small pbx.)
Under consideration are Digium TDM800, Sangoma A200, Rhino R8FXX.
= Option: the really inexpensive (experimental/cheap?) X100P FXO cards
from http://www.x100p.com/products/FXO.php but then no analog phones
could be connected without ATA.
= How important is h/w echo cancellation at the fxo entry point?

If anybody knows where to get hold of used IP phones then I'd love to
hear about it.

Thank you all for letting me "pick your brains."

Hendrik Schaink


Dana Harding wrote:
> I put together an asterisk pbx last year.
> I wasn't able to find any suppliers locally for what I wanted,  and 
> ended up ordering most of my equipment from http://www.voipdepot.ca/.   
> He shipped very quickly. I haven't had any issues with anything from 
> there yet (so I can't answer on how RMAs are handled)
> 
> Let me know if you are able to find a local supplier.
> 
> I also looked at equipment at:
> http://www.canadianvoipstore.com/index.php?cPath=99_103
> 
> It might be different now but at the time,  despite the name 
> "canadianvoipstore" - they actually didn't have any infrastructure in 
> Canada.   Any items from them had to cross the border - introducing 
> either excessive delays (shipping via USPS - and getting held up by 
> Canada Customs),  or excessive cost  (ship FedEx or UPS - and pay 
> through the nose for their border services).
> 
> Other places I came across,  but didn't order from:
> http://www.voipware.ca/en-ca/
> http://www.netvoice.ca/products/
> 
> For what it's worth:  I suggest going with one of the internal solutions 
> (sangoma or digium card) instead of the ATAs.    I was having echo and 
> quality issues (and the occasional lockup) with some Sipura SPA-3k's.   
> The quality was tolerable most of the time - but would have eventually 
> ended up in the users revolting out of frustration.
> 
> A Sangoma A200 with the hardware echo canceller made a world of 
> difference once it was running.  I would use an ATA for home (I don't 
> use the phone much),  but for business there was no contest for the 
> extra cost.
> 
> Which IP phones have you tried out / are looking at?



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