Well welcome back guys ... I think it would be a great idea if we had a small 
set of presentations (account presentations) about defcon and what went 
there. I am sure it will be intresting to many of us ...

Cheers
Szemir

On August 12, 2008 02:16, Shawn wrote:
> Watch the news in the next bit.  There was a VERY significant hack
> revealed DURING DefCon.  In a nutshell, they
> "hijacked the Internet - no really".  It was significant enough that an
> unscheduled presentation was put together for this.
>
> In the middle of DefCon, they were able to capture ALL, (seriously I
> mean ALL!) traffic on the DefCon network, reroute it to go through New
> York, and back to DefCon.  Without anyone noticing.  In an almost
> untraceable manner.  The traceable part would take an incredibly keen
> eye to see the one or two hints in a trace route.
>
> Think about that.  Approx 9000 hackers, actively stressing the network.
>   The most hostile network there could be.  And not a single one of them
> noticed they themselves were hacked in the midst of the event....
>
> And it was all triggered by a single email message. (disclaimer - I
> *think* that was the mechanism)  No "exploits" needed....  and it wasn't
> even a social engineering thing.
>
> The implications are kinda staggering.  They chose to only affect the
> DefCon network.  They could have very easily done the same to say,
> Google.  MicroSoft, Dell, etc.  And then blocked or modified any traffic
> they wanted.
>
> That was a VERY cool thing to see.
>
> If the news isn't released before the next meeting, we'll give a few
> more details.  (we being one of the 4 of us who made it to DefCon this
> year)
>
> Shawn
>
> ps, hope I got the hints right...  They were talking about networking at
> a level I've rarely had the opportunity to hear about, never mind
> implement.  John, I think you know all the details needed to do this.
> It's much closer to your level of work, I think.
>
> pss.  hmmm.  Now as I write this up, I'm beginning to wonder if this may
> have been misdirection....  If nothing else, DefCon shows you that the
> paranoid are not being paranoid enough!... lol
>
>
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