Hi Szemir,

Thanks for you input.

I need to put together a bit of a position paper for myself prior to
meeting with Kempton and later Jason.

As I will only be representing myself I will centre my arguments around
my (in)ability to use purchased media for their apparent purpose.

Specifically I want to address and preserve my ability to transcode from
CD to MP3 and from DVD to AVI/MPEG.  

I want to preserve my ability to listen to that transcoded media on my
iPod, or any subsequent device that I build or purchase.  I don't want
to have to buy the music all over again for every device.

Similar arguments apply to the DVDs I've purchased.  It's nice to be
able to rip a DVD and watch it on our EEEPC while flying.  The EEEPC
doesn't have a CD/DVD drive and I don't want to have to drag along a
full-size laptop just for that drive.  Besides, when the guy ahead of
you reclines his seat you can't open a full size laptop anyway.

The issue of (lack of) artist compensation is legitimate but I am not
the right person to argue that because I'm not a stake holder in that
relationship.

Cheers,
J.J.


On Fri, 2008-10-24 at 21:54 -0600, bogi wrote:
> Since this was way too short a notice, I can only hope for the best. Setups 
> like this (copy protection) have failed several times in the last 3 decades 
> or so. They where introduced, had great penalties attached to them , and 
> enforced to the hilt only to be dropped and abandoned by its initial 
> instigators as a failure. A voluntary payment system, like with the CC seems 
> to provide a far better alternative. A law that needs to have exceptions on 
> allmost all its sections for law enforcemet, secret service and public 
> libraries is a bad law that obviously does not serve the public intrest.
> the idea behind copyright law was to protect the book publishers investment 
> against other unscrupulous publishers. It was never meant to intrude on how 
> the end user used, shared talked about made variant of the original material. 
> That was all tucked under a wide cover called fair use. Bill C61 and i am 
> sure we will see the next version soon, obliterates this fair use protection 
> completely. it goes on meticulously enumerating how and nuder what 
> circumstances can the user make one copy for themselves, and that they can 
> only do that if the un-circumventable copy protection was not implemented. 
> And would stipulate giving away a media or a media player with some media on 
> it a punishable big time. (this would make throwing away your disks a major 
> offense btw...)
> A simple make your product available for use, including fair use, a 
> reasonable 
> price setting and the willing to understand that in today's word , the the 
> ramp for publishing to the mass media has been lowered significantly, and a 
> controlled attribution system might be far more appropriate than a clobber / 
> punish approach.
> 
> Copy protection by the way, fails because it turns out that it actually 
> punishes the (legitimate) end user and the so protected dmca / drm , and 
> there are allready examples of this happening in the US a few times.
> 
> On a side not: protecting the publishers rights here does not translate to 
> protecting the artist. Most of the publishing companies have contracts with 
> their artists that deprives the artists from any on line revenue or does not 
> include that revenue source. It is hypocritical to call the artists intrest 
> into play, they benefit nothing from this, as a side note: what do you think 
> the dispute between the show writers and (Industry) was when the writers went 
> on strike for a few month last year ??
> 
> Well , i guess i was quite long winded here.
> Cheers
> Szemir
> 
> On October 24, 2008 16:40, John Jardine wrote:
> > I know this is short notice but I have a meeting with Jason Kenney
> > tomorrow regarding what was bill C61.
> >
> > If there are any other people that live in his riding that would like to
> > speak with him on this issue please let me know so I can co-ordinate it
> > with Kempton Lam of Fair Copyright for Canada.
> >
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