Royce Souther wrote:
Any way. My point is. Google has a free tool that analysis web site traffic in great detail. I am using it on a site where I do not have access to the code and they offer it as a free tool. I don't mind if Google knows who is visiting my site. I do want Google to know about my site so every thing I have seen about this free and well designed tool is good.
Just to re-iterate/clarify. PiWik (http://piwik.org/) does the same. Once you have set up the server side, you end up with a block of code (html/js) to paste into your pages - just like Google. The only difference is the data is stored on YOUR server, not google's. You still get the fancy stats/graphs/etc.
As for the discussion regarding users and recommendations... Users are generally non-technical. Build your sites to meet the standards and most users won't notice (and that's a good thing). But build a site that only works in specific instances, and those users notice and complain. As a developer, it is not my responsibility to make sure users can safely browse OTHER websites that I have no control over. But, for my sites, there is the noscript tag, and CSS can do a lot of fancy stuff without using JS at all - like menus/rollovers. I have never used the NoScript FF plugin, nor feel I need too.
Nobody should ever trust JS (or any other code) that has not been vetted in some way. In practice this becomes hard to do unless you outright turn off JS support in the browser. But then half the web just stops working for you. There is a balance here that we developers have no control over, nor should we. (Once we do, it will just be abused by those who are already abusing the current system.) Tools like the NoScript plugin address this issue for those who need/want to worry about it.
My thoughts. Shawn _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
