I was reading a bit on here and figured I would throw out the
suggestions that I have for the windows side of things.... I do agree
that there are no preventative measures for Windows. However I have a
solution that kind-of helps with this.
* Disk Cleaner
CCleaner (Freeware) -- http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner
* Registry Defragmenter/Cleaner
CCleaner (Freeware) -- http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner
* System Optimizer
Typically I start with a vanilla and optimize using a simple msconfig...
* Performance Test
thats pretty vague however
CPUZ -- http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
HDTACH - http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/english.html?/be_hdd.html
MEMTEST - http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/english.html?/be_memory.html
As for the rest of your query, I steer clear of using windows outside of
the above.
Now to address the comment above, Software "Layering" is available which
is a 3rd party app which snapshots your system and tracks applications
changes to the system, allowing you to realistically do a "full" removal
of software. Which is helpful for problematic applications and such.
Altaris is part of Norton now...
http://download.cnet.com/Software-Virtualization-Solution-SVS/3000-2651_4-10729116.html
If you need to remove software completely and easily going beyond the
uninstaller give revo a shot. -- http://www.revouninstaller.com/
Anyways there is my 2 cents I hope its somewhat helpful.
Chris
Done Right I.T.
http://donerightit.com
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> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:07:24 -0600
> From: TekBudda <[email protected]>
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> The boss wasn't specific about the feature sets they were loooking for
> & Norton Utilities was the closest thing I can thing of. I think what
> they are maybe are looking for is something that does the following:
> * Disk Cleaner
> * Registry Defragmenter/Cleaner
> * System Optimizer
> * Performance Test
>
> While not a core part I would imagine the following would be helpful as well:
> * Service Manager
> * Startup Manager
> * Hardware Profiler
> * Partitioning Tool
> * Data Recovery
>
> I did try and press for more details of excatly what they are looking
> for, but he was prtty busy & couldn't really outline things much more.
> My best guess is that they are looking for some sort of preventative
> maintainence product that could be used to diagnose issues & allow
> tech's to be somewhat proactive at addressing issues.
>
> I am kind of envisioing what you did Gustin...a single cd/usb that you
> could pop in the drive & perform said functions. I know it would
> likely be possible to build something out of some protabl tools & such
> out there, but I wanted to see if there was something already
> available.
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Gustin Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 10-05-02 10:19 PM, TekBudda wrote:
> >> Hey all,
> >>
> >> Haven't seen a post lately so I figured I would query a see if anyone
> >> had some suggestions.
> >>
> >> A supervisor at work asked me if I knew of any diagnostic suites
> >> (preferably) that could be used on Windows & Mac computers. ?I am
> >> probably looking at a couple of different solutions here, but if there
> >> is somethign out there that accomplishs both...great! ?The easiest way
> >> I can describe the need would be something similar to or on par with
> >> Norton Utilities.
> >>
> >> They are not afraid to purchase the needed tools, but if it can be
> >> done for free even better, but cost would be a concern depending on
> >> the licenses. ?My boss is aware that I give preference to open source
> >> technologies & he is open to that as well. ?Essentially...whatever
> >> does the trick. ?I guess what I would be envisioning would be a
> >> bootable CD/USB tool set.
> >>
> >> I have been googling around a bit, but haven't quite found what I am
> >> looking for. ?Although to be fair, my searches & investigation to this
> >> point have been very peripheral. ?If anyone has any ideas please let
> >> me know.
> >>
> > I have not used Norton Utilities since the Dos 5.x days, so you will
> > need to be a lot more specific about what tasks you want accomplished.
> >
> > For a swiss army knife of bootable Linux goodness, I am a big fan of
> > systemrescuecd. ?I always carry it with me on a USB stick. ?I use this
> > to recover just about any machine once it no longer boots (recover data
> > that is, I don't really bother with repair any more).
> >
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> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:25:44 -0600
> From: Greg Saunders <[email protected]>
> To: CLUG General <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Query: Mac & Windows Diagnostics Tools
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> No offense (and I should probably refrain from this post) but there is no
> such thing as "preventative maintenance" on a Windows box. The Macs I have
> around here run about as good as my Linux desktops/servers so it's a moot
> point.
>
> As far as Windows is concerned, my experience with the likes of Norton and
> other similar utilities, is that it's simply a world of pain. It's not worth
> it. I sold my last Windows box at the beginning of the year and *will not*
> sell nor support another.
>
> My colleague, who has significantly more Windows machines in the field than
> I, is done as well. In fact, he will only ship Windows to clients if the box
> is running Linux and Windows is running as a VM inside the Linux O/S.
> Period.
>
> Windows goes sideways (which it *always* does) and proof, blow away the VM
> and restore to the last known good snapshot. And store absolutely *no* data
> on the Windows box.
>
> Then you'll have a life ... things will be sane. You'll have time for your
> wife and kids :)
>
> Ciao,
> Greg
>
> I know, I know, not the helpful post you want and I should have just kept
> this to myself ... sorry :)
>
>
> On 4 May 2010 14:07, TekBudda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The boss wasn't specific about the feature sets they were loooking for
> > & Norton Utilities was the closest thing I can thing of. I think what
> > they are maybe are looking for is something that does the following:
> > * Disk Cleaner
> > * Registry Defragmenter/Cleaner
> > * System Optimizer
> > * Performance Test
> >
> > While not a core part I would imagine the following would be helpful as
> > well:
> > * Service Manager
> > * Startup Manager
> > * Hardware Profiler
> > * Partitioning Tool
> > * Data Recovery
> >
> > I did try and press for more details of excatly what they are looking
> > for, but he was prtty busy & couldn't really outline things much more.
> > My best guess is that they are looking for some sort of preventative
> > maintainence product that could be used to diagnose issues & allow
> > tech's to be somewhat proactive at addressing issues.
> >
> > I am kind of envisioing what you did Gustin...a single cd/usb that you
> > could pop in the drive & perform said functions. I know it would
> > likely be possible to build something out of some protabl tools & such
> > out there, but I wanted to see if there was something already
> > available.
> >
> > On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Gustin Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On 10-05-02 10:19 PM, TekBudda wrote:
> > >> Hey all,
> > >>
> > >> Haven't seen a post lately so I figured I would query a see if anyone
> > >> had some suggestions.
> > >>
> > >> A supervisor at work asked me if I knew of any diagnostic suites
> > >> (preferably) that could be used on Windows & Mac computers. I am
> > >> probably looking at a couple of different solutions here, but if there
> > >> is somethign out there that accomplishs both...great! The easiest way
> > >> I can describe the need would be something similar to or on par with
> > >> Norton Utilities.
> > >>
> > >> They are not afraid to purchase the needed tools, but if it can be
> > >> done for free even better, but cost would be a concern depending on
> > >> the licenses. My boss is aware that I give preference to open source
> > >> technologies & he is open to that as well. Essentially...whatever
> > >> does the trick. I guess what I would be envisioning would be a
> > >> bootable CD/USB tool set.
> > >>
> > >> I have been googling around a bit, but haven't quite found what I am
> > >> looking for. Although to be fair, my searches & investigation to this
> > >> point have been very peripheral. If anyone has any ideas please let
> > >> me know.
> > >>
> > > I have not used Norton Utilities since the Dos 5.x days, so you will
> > > need to be a lot more specific about what tasks you want accomplished.
> > >
> > > For a swiss army knife of bootable Linux goodness, I am a big fan of
> > > systemrescuecd. I always carry it with me on a USB stick. I use this
> > > to recover just about any machine once it no longer boots (recover data
> > > that is, I don't really bother with repair any more).
> > >
> > >
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> I had had experience with pretty much all of the providers suggested &
> for the most part they all suck to some degree. Shaw for me has had
> the least amount of suckage with Telus being the worst, Rogers second
> worst & Bell second best. As far as DSL goes in ALberta if you are
> using any DSL service you are going to be accessing Telus somewhere
> down the line, so when they have major problems, so will you. One of
> the best DSL providers I have dealt with has been Nucleus both from a
> business & personal level. I believe Platinum is still in the game
> but I am not sure. Depending on where you live, Xplornet may be an
> option for you as they offer satellite as well.
>
> My experince with Shaw & servers & from talking to there support has
> been that if you don't over do it, chances are they won't bug you
> about running services. I have been using there stuff for years (al
> be it not running servers) & have been overall pretty happy. Service
> has been good & very responsive. Best of all no contracts. From a
> price match perspective...I have got a few perks/freebies over the
> years & have known some people to have success in changing their
> pricing. My biggest complaint has been when the digital phone craps
> out. It has not happened a lot, but it is the fact that it happens.
> Yes it could happen on a POTS line, but that is so rare it is
> negliable. I have been relatiely impresse din my experiences with
> Shaw technical support, with a few exceptions, but stuff happens with
> everyone.
>
> I to am waiting to see what happens with WInd Mobile as well. They
> are a new spectrum provider that runs on 1700/2100. The have a link
> to T-Mobile in the States & from what I understand if you are able to
> get an unlocked T-Mobile phone you can actiavte it on WInd for free.
> The biggest barrier for them at this point is coverage but it is
> expanding. There phones have unlimited data plans & can be tethered
> to a laptop for no additional charges. Something else to consider is
> that they have a cost-sharing arrngment with Shaw for building towers
> & there has been stuff floating around that Shaw will be entering the
> moble game as well. I would imagine it will be new spectrum phones &
> from what I understand they would be whitelabelling initially.
>
> HTH
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 15:24:13 -0600
> From: TekBudda <[email protected]>
> To: CLUG General <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [clug-talk] Query: Mac & Windows Diagnostics Tools
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> No it is a great post. A reminder of what we are fighting for. I was
> taling with someon yesterday taht said Linux would be a great
> operating system if it could "commericalize" itself more like Mac or
> WIndows. whihc he stated both suck. So I asked him, "you mean that
> Linux would be "better" if it was more like WIndows." e and I both
> had a good laugh over that comment & ate another chickan wing.
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Greg Saunders <[email protected]> wrote:
> > No offense (and I should probably?refrain?from this post) but there is no
> > such thing as "preventative maintenance" on a Windows box. The Macs I have
> > around here run about as good as my Linux desktops/servers so it's a moot
> > point.
> > As far as Windows is concerned, my experience with the likes of Norton and
> > other similar utilities, is that it's simply a world of pain. It's not worth
> > it. I sold my last Windows box at the beginning of the year and *will not*
> > sell nor support another.
> > My colleague, who has significantly more Windows machines in the field than
> > I, is done as well. In fact, he will only ship Windows to clients if the box
> > is running Linux and Windows is running as a VM inside the Linux O/S.
> > Period.
> > Windows goes sideways (which it *always* does) and proof, blow away the VM
> > and restore to the last known good snapshot. And store absolutely *no* data
> > on the Windows box.
> > Then you'll have a life ... things will be sane. You'll have time for your
> > wife and kids :)
> > Ciao,
> > Greg
> > I know, I know, not the helpful post you want and I should have just kept
> > this to myself ... sorry :)
> >
> > On 4 May 2010 14:07, TekBudda <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> The boss wasn't specific about the feature sets they were loooking for
> >> & Norton Utilities was the closest thing I can thing of. ?I think what
> >> they are maybe are looking for is something that does the following:
> >> * Disk Cleaner
> >> * Registry Defragmenter/Cleaner
> >> * System Optimizer
> >> * Performance Test
> >>
> >> While not a core part I would imagine the following would be helpful as
> >> well:
> >> * Service Manager
> >> * Startup Manager
> >> * Hardware Profiler
> >> * Partitioning Tool
> >> * Data Recovery
> >>
> >> I did try and press for more details of excatly what they are looking
> >> for, but he was prtty busy & couldn't really outline things much more.
> >> ?My best guess is that they are looking for some sort of preventative
> >> maintainence product that could be used to diagnose issues & allow
> >> tech's to be somewhat proactive ?at addressing issues.
> >>
> >> I am kind of envisioing what you did Gustin...a single cd/usb that you
> >> could pop in the drive & perform said functions. ?I know it would
> >> likely be possible to build something out of some protabl tools & such
> >> out there, but I wanted to see if there was something already
> >> available.
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Gustin Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > On 10-05-02 10:19 PM, TekBudda wrote:
> >> >> Hey all,
> >> >>
> >> >> Haven't seen a post lately so I figured I would query a see if anyone
> >> >> had some suggestions.
> >> >>
> >> >> A supervisor at work asked me if I knew of any diagnostic suites
> >> >> (preferably) that could be used on Windows & Mac computers. ?I am
> >> >> probably looking at a couple of different solutions here, but if there
> >> >> is somethign out there that accomplishs both...great! ?The easiest way
> >> >> I can describe the need would be something similar to or on par with
> >> >> Norton Utilities.
> >> >>
> >> >> They are not afraid to purchase the needed tools, but if it can be
> >> >> done for free even better, but cost would be a concern depending on
> >> >> the licenses. ?My boss is aware that I give preference to open source
> >> >> technologies & he is open to that as well. ?Essentially...whatever
> >> >> does the trick. ?I guess what I would be envisioning would be a
> >> >> bootable CD/USB tool set.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have been googling around a bit, but haven't quite found what I am
> >> >> looking for. ?Although to be fair, my searches & investigation to this
> >> >> point have been very peripheral. ?If anyone has any ideas please let
> >> >> me know.
> >> >>
> >> > I have not used Norton Utilities since the Dos 5.x days, so you will
> >> > need to be a lot more specific about what tasks you want accomplished.
> >> >
> >> > For a swiss army knife of bootable Linux goodness, I am a big fan of
> >> > systemrescuecd. ?I always carry it with me on a USB stick. ?I use this
> >> > to recover just about any machine once it no longer boots (recover data
> >> > that is, I don't really bother with repair any more).
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> >> >
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