Without knowing more about the application I am not sure if I have any
recommendations.  What kind of availability is required (is it going
to be on 24/7).  What is the expected size and nature of the data
being stored, what is the expected network load, what are the usage
patterns, and so on.

For a lower power draw, you could use an ARM or something like a
Soekris and a laptop SATA drive (or SSD).  Most of the off the shelf
solutions assume a number of large spinning pieces of metal.


On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 9:03 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> The wikipedia artical actually states that many switching power supplies can 
> be plugged directly into a DC power source.  This happens because the 
> rectifiers turn the AC into DC as the first stage and after that it is all DC 
> anyways.
>
> So the thing is in this mode one would need likely more than 100V DC _or_ the 
> power draw would have to be less than 1/2 of what the supply is rated for 
> _or_ one would have to modify it and double the capacity of the input side by 
> putting two (2) rectifiers in parallel.
>
> The problem with 24V is that its so low the amperage the thing will try to 
> draw will overload it (unless the draw is very low).
>
>
>
> I think in general none of these ideas are practical - I'd just go get an 
> inverter and swap the 24V DC back into AC.  Talk to Staples.  Any cast out 
> UPS does this.  The APC model I have here is 24V internal (I think) and its 
> rated for 450 watts.
>
> NOTE.
>
> Every UPS I have seen is terribly underpowered on the battery side.  Even a 
> deep cycle battery cannot handle more than a few deep discharge cycles or it 
> will die!
>
> There are things like battery desulphonators which are little circuits 
> designed to counter the effects of deep discharge and they are reported to 
> bring back dead car batteries as well.  I've looked at building some and 
> would be interested to work with a small team because why should each of us 
> re-invent the wheel.
>
> ---------------
>
> The problem however is that other than in very specialised applications, a 
> battery power source is just not suitable.
>
> I'd like to know more about the application.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 08:01:09PM -0600, [email protected] wrote:
>> Yes
>>
>> Excellent.
>>
>> This is exactly the stuff he is looking for.  Then he pulls the 120/240v 
>> switching power supply and installs DC-DC.  THe likely won't fit in his case.
>>
>> Next if he has maybe of the external enclosues which come with a wall wart 
>> then he is more than 1/2 way there.  He needs to match the power output of 
>> the wall wart and that should be going into some sort of DC-DC regulator to 
>> power his equipment.
>>
>> I would think its right off the shelf because many need mobile offices which 
>> need to run in cars and campers.
>>
>> Any of the big RV stores should be able to help.  A couple years ago I spoke 
>> with Novak RV and they said they have solutions.  But I think they might be 
>> running inverters - which in this case likely make no sense.
>>
>> Still the way the DC-DC transformer might work would be just a switching 
>> power supply to chop the incomming DC current same as the AC power supplies 
>> chop the incomming AC current.  Then at very high frequencies its easy to 
>> get the right voltage and smooth it back out.
>>
>> http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/327
>>
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched-mode_power_supply
>>
>>
>> Note his 24V power is "nominal" 24V.  It can be anything from 0-24V if the 
>> battry is undervolt (going flat because he is discharging it to run his 
>> gadgets) to a normal 26.4 volts to over 28 volts if there is a charger on it.
>>
>> So his power supply must clean this up.
>>
>> He should make sure he has the MOV's in the circuit as well but I'm not sure 
>> about them in a DC application.  He can still get spikes!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 03:07:52PM -0600, Hendrik Schaink wrote:
>> > Do you mean DC-DC type pwer supplies? Take a look here:
>> >
>> > http://www.mini-box.com/DC-DC
>> >
>> > Hendrik
>> >
>> > > I am in the market for a harddisk storage device of some sort (like
>> > > Drobo Qnap FreeNAS)
>> > > that takes 24V dc in (max) no 110V available.
>> > >
>> > > Has to have 500GB or 1TB storage and an ethernet connection so I can
>> > > give it an IP address.
>> > > (Pref linux based)
>> > >
>> > > Like a freeNAS type of thing ...
>> > >
>> > > I could take probably one of those mini-itx ones and shove 2 disks in it
>> > > and install freeNAS...
>> > >
>> > > But wonder if something exists off-hte-shelve ...
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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