Some excellent points, but the reality is that people want & think they need that integration & simplicity.
I know exactly what you mean about the whole work flow thing. As I have been continuing my migration to FLOSS I have been thinking a lot more about "How" & "Why" I am doing something & trying to find a solution for that. And I don't know if I further complicate things by trying to find solutions that are cross-platform & possibly have smart-phone integration. Difficult at times..but can be done. Example...I am in the process of trying to find a replacement for my 10 year old quicken which is set to blow up soon. I would like to move to GNUCash, but there are some aspects that I am struggling with. As well, I am trying to bring Lisa more on board with using electronic financial management. Trying to combine these things can be interesting.,,but I think in the end it will be worth it. I am thinking that the end results will be that I will need to use a transitional piece to get me from Quicken to GNUCash...or something else. On 13-05-01 04:41 PM, Gustin Johnson wrote: > There are several OneNote like applications, several project management > suites (open and proprietary) and finally Kontact kicks the crap out of > Outlook. If you want you are really asking for is interoperability then > no, that will probably never happen because it requires cooperation to > function properly. > > FLOSS alternatives != (gratis feature copies of proprietary products). > In other words, open source software does a whole lot more than just > clone existing applications. What is the Microsoft equivalent of the > Linux kernel? How about KDE? What about Citadel, Jenkins, Watir, > Emacs, Vim... I could go on for hours. It is helpful to stop thinking > in terms of applications (what is referred to as modal computing) and > start thinking in terms of solutions (or put another way, getting > something done). > > I really saw this problem in the years that I have been doing "prosumer" > level audio work on a Linux workstation. The largest obstacle that > often gets in the way of new users is that they do not see their > workflow let alone how change it to suit a new environment. It would be > insanity to expect an astronaut to land on Mars without adapting to the > new environment, or a deep sea diver to not alter his or her behaviour > on ascent as a result of the environment they are traversing. At a > basic level, computing is (not yet) any different. > > Very few people even think about their workflow regardless of the > platform in use. I can't tell you the number of people who left > frustrated because there was no Linux equivalent to Pro Tools or Cubase > (actually there is, the problem is that there is no single "app" > replacement). Instead of looking to accomplish the steps in their > workflow, they were looking for a single "app" that was a drop in > replacement for an "app" on a different platform. It did not matter that > they could still get to the same end point, they wanted things to stay > exactly the same, only for free (as in zero cost, most could care less > about the libre aspect). Even with that single "app", they still had a > workflow, they just did not see it. > > Getting drawn into "if only X existed" is a losing battle and a waste of > time. In the end find the tools that help you get stuff done. > > > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Greg Saunders <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > I don't believe times have changed. Microsoft will play in where > there is market share. Android has market share. Linux (desktop) > does not. It's unlikely that we'll ever see Office for Linux (not > that I want to) because it's improbable that Linux (desktop) will > ever have market share in North America. > > Microsoft is stupid but they'd be downright moronic to overlook the > ENORMOUS Android market. > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying > > > > > _______________________________________________ > clug-talk mailing list > [email protected] > http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca > Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) > **Please remove these lines when replying > _______________________________________________ clug-talk mailing list [email protected] http://clug.ca/mailman/listinfo/clug-talk_clug.ca Mailing List Guidelines (http://clug.ca/ml_guidelines.php) **Please remove these lines when replying
