On my Lenovo I was able to disable the secure boot in the UEFI and then
install Ubuntu as I normally would. I did a clean install of Windows 8 on
it's own SSD. GRUB has no problems with either OS.
I also stand by my criticism of the Ultrabook branding. Just for some
background, my direct PC hardware experience dates back to the 8086 and
286. I/we had computers before those (the Apple IIc was the most often
used). I am very much aware of Netbooks (which generally also used PC
parts btw), and I see the Ultrabook category as an iteration of that
concept. Better yes. Good not by any stretch of the imagination
especially when you compare them with. I have also owned several Netbooks
and an Ultrabook.
Glossy 1280x768 screens are a decade old at this point, and 4 GiB of RAM is
basically a single browser session. Most have pretty nasty keyboards
(though to be fair, so do most laptops).
The latest release from Intel ("Haswell") might be able to change my
opinion, but I will need to get my hands on one from someone other than
Apple.
Basically, I don't see the point. If you want something small and portable
for light computing duties, get an iPad or a Nexus 10, you are going to get
a vastly better screen.
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Hendrik Schaink <[email protected]>wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> Here is a link to a side-by-side install of Win8 and Ubuntu 12.xx with
> consideration for both uefi and secure boot:
> http://askubuntu.com/**questions/221835/installing-**
> ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-**windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-**supported<http://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-on-a-pre-installed-windows-8-64-bit-system-uefi-supported>
>
> Also, have a look at a Google search with the search terms:
> https://www.google.ca/webhp#**bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=**
> 614c58fa9836a838&q=dual-boot%**2Bwindows8%2Buefi%2Bubuntu%**2B12.04<https://www.google.ca/webhp#bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=614c58fa9836a838&q=dual-boot%2Bwindows8%2Buefi%2Bubuntu%2B12.04>
>
> There's a lot of trial-and-error going on when installing linux (ubuntu)
> on the same hdd as Win8. Because you actually can lock yourself out of the
> Win8 computer, make sure to read up on everything until you grasp the
> "pitfall opportunities" _and_ the work-arounds.
>
> Disclaimer: While I studied this kind of install, I have _NOT_ actually
> put it into place myself, so the the above are just my suggestions. Be sure
> to know what you are doing, in all reality I cannot assist you any further.
>
> IMHO, don't waste any breath asking MS. Acer does have _some_ linux OS
> expertise as demo'd by the release of a linux-based tablet/netbook. I
> recommend you head straight for the Ubuntu forums to get hold of real-world
> answers.
>
> Wishing you a successful install, take care,
>
> Hendrik
>
>
>
> On 13-08-08 08:22 PM, Richard Carter wrote:
>
>> Hi Hendrick,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply. I was hoping you would tell me how to do it!
>>
>> My first step is to contact Microsoft tech support to ask them how to do
>> it. I doubt they will tell me anything useful but at least it may annoy
>> them! Then I'll contact Acer tech support to ask them how to do it.
>> Once again I doubt I'll get much useful info but it will show them that
>> people want to run linux on their laptop. Finally, I'll contact ubuntu
>> forum to get info on partitioning and installing on a hybrid drive.
>>
>> Robin
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Hendrik Schaink <[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]>**> wrote:
>>
>> Looking forward to reading about your efforts in getting around the
>> locked-in boot partition of any Win8 machine!
>>
>> Hendrik
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13-08-05 03:37 PM, Richard Carter wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your comments gents. I had a rush of blood to the
>> brain and
>> splashed out for the acer v7 before I had a chance to read the
>> comment
>> from Gustin and Andrew: it has lots of RAM, a "hybrid" drive (a
>> 24gb ssd
>> portion and a 500gb hdd portion) and wasn't too expensive. My
>> plan is
>> to replace windows8 with either ubuntu or debian. I hope I can
>> arrange
>> to have home on the 500gb hdd and the os on the 24gb sdd. Will
>> the
>> installers do that or will it require some clever partitioning
>> of the
>> "hybrid" drive? I would be grateful for comments.
>>
>> Robin
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Andrew Robinson
>> <[email protected]
>> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline.**com<[email protected]>
>> >
>> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline._**_com
>>
>> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline.**com <[email protected]>>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Not to sound condescending, but I have been selling computer
>> hardware since before the turn of the century, both
>> corporate and
>> retail, and I believe that you are confusing a netbook with
>> an
>> ultra-book. An ultra-book is built like most other
>> laptops, the
>> only difference being that an ultra-book is thinner than a
>> typical
>> laptop. In regards to solder on ram any brand of laptop,
>> be it a
>> netbook, an ultra- book, or a regular laptop any of these
>> can have
>> ram solder on to the motherboard. In terms of the screens
>> available
>> on ultra-books and regular laptops are essentially the
>> same, be it
>> touch screen, high resolution, ips, or other feature.
>> Hardware wise
>> both styles have very similar hardware, in terms of processor
>> options, ram speeds, hard drive options, and integrated
>> features.____
>>
>> __ __
>>
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>> *On Behalf Of *Gustin Johnson
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 4, 2013 11:53 AM
>> *To:* CLUG General
>> *Subject:* Re: [clug-talk] Installing Linux on Acer V7____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>>
>> Do not think of "Ultra-books" as computers. They are
>> appliances
>> that you will likely not be able to service or upgrade.
>> Generally
>> the RAM is soldered on and the batteries are not usually
>> replaceable
>> either.____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>>
>> I get that the really thin profile is cool looking, but the
>> crappy
>> hardware and screens that they stuff into these things is
>> really not
>> worth it in the long run, at least in my opinion.____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>>
>> There is a reason that I bought a Lenovo T430 instead of an
>> "Ultra-book". It had a standard mSATA, a slim (7mm) SATA
>> 2.5", and
>> a replacable optical drive (I have a 2.5" drive caddy in
>> place of
>> the optical drive. RAM was also user serviceable with
>> detachable
>> batteries. The clincher was the matte IPS panel.____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>>
>> High quality laptops seem to be a dying breed. I used to
>> flip
>> between several brands (the Dell Latitude line used to be a
>> favourite of mine) as they had pretty comparable value.
>> Currently
>> only Lenovo seems to make anything half decent from the top
>> tier
>> vendors.____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>>
>> There are some smaller OEMs (like Sager, I buy Power and
>> Rosewill)
>> where you can get decent components, YMMV with them.____
>>
>> __ __
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Andrew Robinson
>> <[email protected]
>> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline.**com<[email protected]>
>> >
>> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline._**_com
>>
>> <mailto:andrew@boohahaonline.**com <[email protected]>>>>
>> wrote:____
>>
>>
>> The 24gb ssd is typically going to be a cache drive. It may
>> not be
>> possible to install anything on it, this will be a bios
>> limitation.
>> In terms of replacing the drive in some cases the caching
>> ssd drives
>> have different mounting holes than standard msata drives.
>> That is
>> the issue I've got with me Asus laptop.
>>
>> Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown
>> (www.nitrodesk.com <http://www.nitrodesk.com>
>> <http://www.nitrodesk.com>)___**___
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* Richard Carter [[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]**>
>> <mailto:[email protected]
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>> *Received:* Saturday, 03 Aug 2013, 9:49
>> *To:* CLUG General [[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
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>> <mailto:[email protected]>>]
>> *Subject:* [clug-talk] Installing Linux on Acer V7____
>>
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>>
>> I'm considering buying an Acer V7-581-6489 laptop which has 2
>> drives; a 500GB HDD and a 24GB SSD. I want to get rid of
>> Windows 8
>> and install Debian and/or Ubunu. Has anyone had any
>> experience
>> doing an install on a computer of this kind? ____
>>
>>
>> What I would really like to do is replace the 24GB SSD
>> with a 128GB
>> SSD. Is this feasible? ____
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