Suggestion?
I make a patient problem list including the expected documentation and stick it as page one in the nursing notes.  You yellow out or add as needed.  I think problem lists are the best thing on the planet for many SNF.
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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: documenting to support MDS entries

Yes, that is what our social services does, and I take it a step farther, and also doccument what the social services person said and what was said during my interview with the staff in the care plan notes. 
Shellie
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From: mdsc
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: documenting to support MDS entries

That is exactly what I do!
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Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:59 AM
Subject: documenting to support MDS entries

for example, for mood & behavior...nurses have not documented resident fears and delusions, but when staff are interviewed they say 'oh yes, she has talked about the little boy drowning, or falling out of the window, or the fire, etc.'.  It is such a common occurrence for her that they seem to just expect it from her (we do have it careplanned).  Would social services (who enters this section) be justified in documenting her conversations with staff and entering on MDS even though it is not documented during the observation period in the nurses' notes, even though her conversations with other staff occurs after the obs. period (or does this even matter?).  Ifpossible, please reply today since we have care plan meeting this afternoon.  (& thanks again).

Kathy Archibald RN
Living Center Supervisor
Caribou Memorial Hospital
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FAX 1-208-547-2790
Soda Springs ID 83246

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