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What makes matters even worse is that not only are
they not on the same page state wise....but within the state as
well!
Example: San Diego Surveyors will site same
items that Riverside Surveyors will caution yet at the sametime Orange County
surveyors will say or do nothing. Go figure!
Wouldn't it be great if all survey teams included a
seasoned MDS Coordinator. I am aware of one team in Riverside County
that has an ex. MDS person...I know her personally and I must say....she
is a good one!
The Nose
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:01
AM
Subject: Re: oltc training
Don't you wish ALL surveyors from ALL states
would get on the same page!
One state gets cited, another one
doesn't........how are facilities expected to keep up when you never know from
one surveyor to the other what is expected or acceptable
Off my box and on to work
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:39
PM
Subject: Re: oltc training
Recently attended an inservice on restraints
given by a health care review group who is working closely with surveyors
and stated that the definition in the RAI manula is being read into too
much. A person could have a belt on and not beable to remove but not
be a restraint. There example was a resident who does not try to get
out of the wheel chair but has tendency to lean over and play with her
feet has a belt on that would be considered an enabler.
Rationale: it is not prohibiting her access to her body or the task of
continuing to leanover in chair it is just on her so she doesn't flip out of
chair.
Dawn Sheppard, RN, CRNAC
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 7:08
PM
Subject: oltc training
Ok Went to RAI training sponsered by OLTC
and they said that a restraint was anything that limits mobility or access
to body or that is unable to be easily removed by the
resident......not AND like the RAI manual reads. Is this your
understanding?
Also vitamins are to be counted as
nutritional supplements if given for dietary supplementation and a
medication if given as a
medicine???
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