Comment r/t dialysis-although it is true that dialysis in itself may not be sufficient to document daily skilled care I would certainly initially pick up.  MY experience here is that most of the dialysis patients we get here have a myriad of conditions/diagnosis etc that are  relatively unstable, see the MD regularly at dialysis and have frequent order changes creating a situation of ongoing eligibility for Part A. 

 

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Subject: Re: That UTI question again and another about skilled level for dialysis...

 

To code as a UTI on the MDS , you need :

1. Physician Diagnosis

2.  Symptoms

3.  Positive lab results

 

As for your dialysis patient who  is new to Medicare, they would qualify for Medicare A after a 3-day qualifying hospital stay if they had a daily skilled need.  Dialysis is usually not daily, so does not meet that requirement.  The wound might, depends on the wound and the treatment.

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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:56 AM

Subject: That UTI question again and another about skilled level for dialysis...

 

First question is about UTI.  (For some reason I am not processing at all today.)  Resident has positive culture, not being treated for UTI.  Can we still count it on the MDS?  I have read the RAI, checked the updates and still cannot decipher.

 

Second resident was Medical Assistance, sent out to dialysis 3 times per week.  Stable with dialysis.  Resident gets enrolled in Medicare, is hospitalized for a qualifying period, comes back with skilled need (open areas) and will resume dialysis.  Is it OK to skill him for Medicare - I did not know if technically he had a 60-break since he was dialysis before his Medicare enrollment but I also did not think that would have put him at a skilled level (dialysis was not done here and it was not daily).

 

Any help appreciated.

 

Bonnie



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