I find trying to improve resident's incontinency a very frustrating endeavor. It might 
be our monitoring system, but I think its very hard to show improvement with regards 
to the QI.

Unless I am misunderstanding the logic.

On the MDS, the resident can be either 0,1,2,3,4. So you can measure improvement if 
the resident goes from 3 to 2 or 1. But on the QI everyone is bunched together (2,3,4) 
under occasionally and frequently incontinent. 

So how are you supposed to show improvement in a 90 year old woman with senile 
dementia whose been incontinent since she was 80. (heavy sigh)




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About 10 years ago I worked in a facility where we had a great incont assessment 
protocol.It was developed ,I believe,at the Hebrew Rehab in Massachusetts.We really 
were able to decide if we had urge,overflow with retention ,or func incont due to 
decreased cog,etc.I felt we really made a difference in improving the problem.I 
haven't seen this attention to the problem any where else that I have been since 
then.I am seeing trackers done [not well either]and a toileting schedule on careplans 
pre and post meals,upon arising and at bedtime.I am after ny Don for us to become more 
aggressive with incont,asking for a bladder scanner and a class from one of our 
younger Urologist in the area that are active with this issue.Do you all feel in your 
facility that you are doing a good job on improving incont?

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