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That is pretty accurate, but I have seen facilities that actually have a definition of infection in their policies or at least one used by the medical staff. Sometimes they count colonies and above a certain number it is considered an infection. Generally however, no symptoms means no infection. Remember, the MDS is meant to measure the expenditure of resources by the facility. If they have not signs, symptoms, or treatment then no expenditures.
 
Nathan
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Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: infections

Suzie Q,
I was taught at the State Program for Infection Control and Epidemiology at UNC in NC that if there were no symptoms it wasn't an infection rather it was a colonization.  Therefore I've never coded it as an infection without it meeting the long term infection criteria requiring symptoms.  I've not had any problems wth the state survey team doing that way either.  I believe most infections are treated 10-14 days maybe longer in the event of MRSA/VRE.  Prehaps the state cited you at 7 days for that reason, thinking the infection may not have resolved in that short a time period.  Or prehaps it was within the time frame the MDS identified for coding.  I think I would have discussed with them the resident who was 6 months colonized. 
 
In a message dated 1/19/2004 8:46:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi all
have had a major controversy going on at our facility. Here is the question say you have a patient come in with MRSA in the nares with lab results but no s/s of infection.  Do you take it in I section, what if some one had +VRE in urine 6 months ago asymptomatic and never had repeat labs, do you take it in i section? What if you had some one with Hx of Hepatitis C on a consult do you code it under viral hepatitis?  And again a wound with MRSA which never had repeat labs and is healed over?
The CRC in our facilty will not claim if not active in past 7 days, state came in and said it has to be on the MDS during our survey and were cited for it.  Coorporate states not to take it unless it affects the current picture of patient.  What I am looking for and yes we read and reread the RAI manual,  but need to know what to do in these cases. Thanks in advance suzieq
 
 
Susann Irwin, RN
MDS Coordinator
Garner, NC

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