This is true, but I don't beilieve it applies to therapy, when use of the
grace days more accurately reflects the resident's intensity of care. If
nursing also routinely uses grace days, this is a problem.

Gail Neustadt, NHA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ann Schoeny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: Is it a red flag to use till day 8 for all the 5 day pps's ifwe
are getting everyone in the very hi


It is supposedly a red flag if you are always using grace days, regardless
of the reason.The RAI manual states that it is okay to use them to more
"fully capture therapy minutes or other treatments"...but goes on the say
that they should be used sparingly.  "If the facility chooses to routinely
use grace days, it may be subject to review through the survey process, by
the fiscal intermediary, or by DAVE." see page 2-28.

ann m schoeny crnac
sem haven nursing and rehab
225 cleveland ave.
milford, ohio 45150
(513) 248-1270


-----Original Message-----
From: Faith Palermo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Is it a red flag to use till day 8 for all the 5 day pps's ifwe
are getting everyone in the very hi


Is it a red flag to use till day 8 for all the 5 day pps's if we are getting
everyone in the very high and ultra high catagories???



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