Mary Lynn,
 
There was some confusion with the December 2002 Manual regarding this issue. However, the August updates clarified the CMS position, which is that pain is to be coded if present.
 
If someone is on a routine pain management program, and never requires prn med for breakthrough pain, and never reports any breakthrough pain, then code 0.  If they request and receive pain med (or any other intervention for c/o pain) and pain is relieved, you still need to code for the pain, as daily or less than daily, as well as the intensity of the pain at its worst.
 
Holly
 
 
Holly F. Sox, RN, RAC-C
Clinical Editor
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:39 PM



I am still confused about coding for pain management.  In one reply this past week one person stated that if pain med is effective and relieving pain then they code 0.  I always thought if they had pain you code it.  I talked with another MDS coordinator in my area and she states that if the pain regime is controlling the pain you code 0 even though they have pain at times.  In the RAI mannual it states The Resident's goal for pain management is being met.  So if thier pain level is under thier ALOP could you code a 0.  Lots of times these Residents do not fully understand thier acceptable level of pain  or the pain scale.  I am confused again as to how to understand if thier goal for pain management is being met.   She also mentioned that someone from Qualis Care explained it to her this way.  So the way we learn to code our pain is effecting our scores on Nursing Home Compare even if we are coding wrong.  So these compares may not be accurate.  I would appreciate if someone could help clarify this problem again as I am confused .   Thanks  Mary Lynn



IMPORTANT NOTICE:  This communication, including any attachments, may contain information that may be confidential or
privileged and is intended solely for the entity or individual to whom it is addressed.  If you are NOT the intended
recipient, you must delete this message and attachments and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or
distribution of this message is strictly prohibited.  Nothing in this email, including any attachment, is to be a
legally binding signature.
/----------------------------------------------------------
The Case Mix Discussion Group is a free service of the
 American Association of Nurse Assessment Coordinators
      "Committed to the Assessment Professional"
Be sure to visit the AANAC website. Accurate answers to your
         questions posted to NAC News and FAQs.
    For more info visit us at http://www.aanac.org
-----------------------------------------------------------/

Reply via email to