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I would skill her.  She has never used her Med A benefit and sounds like she would qualify for Med A coverage now that she has had a 3-day qualifying hospital stay.
 
Ron
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From: Michelle Witges [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 9:11 AM
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Subject: second attempt Re: skilling for old peg tube

Could I get a few more responses.  So far 2 say yes and 2 say no.  I still don't know what to do.  I don't want defraud Medicare but if this lady is due her days I don't want to deny them.  She was home longer than 60 days and she was in our facility longer than 60 days when she did not meet criteria for skilled tube feeding. 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: skilling for old peg tube

This is only accurate if the person has already used a Medicare SNF benefit period. A beneficiary will not earn a new benefit period unless s/he has the 60 day break in skilled services.  However, if a beneficiary has never used the benefit before, then there is no requirement for a "60 day break" prior to using the Med A SNF days.
 
If this resident has been in your facility since 2000 and never used Medicare A, then you can certainly skill her now for the tube feedings.
 
HS
 
Holly F. Sox, RN, RAC-C 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 4:05 PM
Subject: RE: skilling for old peg tube

You are right; you can not skill her because no break in spell of illness.  She has been receiving skilled service for years for the peg tube regardless of never billing under med A.  Unless if she stops the PEG feeds for 60 days or she d/c to a non-nursing care facility, she will never regenerate her 100 days.  This was a big question for me at the AANAC conference and this was the conclusion, so I feel pretty confident in this advice.
monica
 
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From: Michelle Witges [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 3:53 PM
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Subject: skilling for old peg tube

I have a situation regarding a resident.  We admitted her from home in 2000 to a non Medicare A bed.  At time of admission she had a PEG tube and eating oral diet.  The amount of tube feeding did not meet skilled criteria.  She was supposed to be a respite stay for 2 weeks but ended up staying.  Anyway, she ended up with tube feeding for 100% nutrition.  She has been in facility since 2000 with no hospital stay.  She currently was d/c'd to hospital for pneumonia.  My DON thinks that we would be able to skill her for tube feeding as she never used her Med A days after first inserted.  I am inclined to think no since she has not had a 60 break in spell of illness.  What is right?  Thanks
Michelle
 
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Thank You.
 
Michelle Witges

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