----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: Read this!!!
My apologies to those of you that disagree with my having
removed Marti from the listserve. I tried to keep this issue offline but
it looks like that isn't going to be possible.
On May 5th Marti posted a message with a link to a
software vendors website announcing free nursing forms. I visited the
website and read that the free downloads were limited "lite" versions of their
commercial programs. I then sent Marti a private message explaining to
her that we do not allow subscribers to promote software vendors on the
listserve and asked her not to post any additional messages of this
kind. On 5/6 Marti posted another message apologizing for the first
post explaining that she didn't realize it was a software vendor and that
it would not happen again.
At 11:16am today Marti posted a message explaining that
she'd spoken with the company and that they corrected some problems with
their website. The message then encouraged everyone to visit the website
again. Thats when I notified her that she's been removed from the
listserve. She had been warned privately and ignored the
warning.
To clarify, the policy is that cmdg does not allow
messages criticizing or promoting software vendors, commercial products
or services. If anyone has a form/document/policy etc. they'd like to
share, please feel free to post it to this forum. Sharing
information and tools is very different than promoting software.
Offering "free" forms or downloads is a common sales tool to get
customers to visit a vendors website. If we were to allow this
kind of promotion, to be fair to all the other vendors, we'd have to allow
them to post announcements promoting their "free" downloads as
well. With hundreds of long term care vendors, this listserve
could be over-run with advertising and that wouldn't be in the best
interest of this group.
Also, Marti wasn't "just kicked off" the
list. When subscribers post inappropriate messages,
I often contact them privately as I did in this case. She ignored
the warning and did exactly what she was asked not to do. In the
several years I've moderated this listserve, I've only "kicked off"
3 people. No one should worry about getting removed for
posting inappropriate messages. The only subscribers who have been
removed are those who received warnings and chose to ignore
them.
To
answer another post, no I am not the owner. I am under
contract with AANAC to moderate this listserve. I also developed
and maintain AANAC's website. I do occasionally make mistakes and
am more than happy to discuss this privately with anyone who has
questions and/or opinions on the matter. I can be reached 24/7 via
email, toll free at 800-834-7430, or AOL Instant Messenger screen name
gjorg0 (that's a zero on the end).
Sorry to kick up such a controversy. I'm just grateful that I'm
not Donald Rumsfeld.
Have a great weekend,
-Gary
Gary
Jorgenson, RN President - Robin Technologies, Inc.
52 Westerville
Square, Suite 159 Westerville, OH 43081
Phone: 614.895.2020 | Fax:
614.899.1580 | Cell: 614.657.8080
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.robintek.com
Okay...I am confused. We send forms back and forth to each other
all of the time, so why is it not alright for MartiAnn to do the same? I
have used a lot of the information she has sent out over this list-serve, and
I will miss her input. Shame, Shame, Shame!!!
KathyD
Medical Legal
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Oh my god, I just got an email from MartiAnn. Remember she was
that nice nurse who helped with those insults over the weekend. We
have become friends in a few days. What a doll. Now I hear she is off the
list because she did something nice for us as nurses by sending us free
nursing forms. Not even software as she stated in one of her notes .Give me
a break.Someone who is thoughtful and kind. Please. What is this world
coming to.I have seen people here talk of stupid stuff .I hope you kick them
off too.
Since people are allowed to vent here as Holly told me this weekend, I
am now too.
Thanks for listening.
ML