On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 15:08 -0500, Juan I Reyes wrote: > Hi Rick, > > Everybody seems to be talking about distros (sorry I got so late to this > discussion).
well, yes. Wasn't that actually thew question. > But speaking on my behalf and I take it, for all the > starry-eyed real-time composers, Kernel is a big issue here. Indeed - not only for realtime composers (whatever that might be :-) > I am not su sure who else is taking the time on building real-time > 'music' Kernels but Nando's CCRMA_RT Kernel does make a difference. Errm, sorry, but a _lot_ do. JackLab (http://jacklab.net/), 64studio (http://www.64studio.com), UbuntuStudio (http://ubuntustudio.org/), even our (Freiburg University of Music) homegrown Frankenbuntu distro does it. There are well-supported realtime/low-latency kernels for (at least) Fedora, SuSE, Ubuntu and SlackWare available. So it's mostly about integration and _that_ is where distributions are important. > Many Linux newcomers take for granted the Linux-Audio issue since many > distros now have ALSA embedded. Many? Which hasn't? > But ALSA is still on version 1.0.x and > some pros complain about its reliability or as an industry standard. This sentence no grammar. :-) But ALSA actually is at 1.0.16 - so we are in release 16 (!) after the first official stable release. The AutoCAD equivalent would probably be Alsa20, or maybe you prefer ALSA2009. Don't be fooled by conservative software versioning. > The > ALSA-OSS discussion still continues without a winner. What? What "pro" is seriously using OSS? And who is discussing ALSA vs. OSS. "Realtime Composing" with OSS. There are "issues" in the Linux sound world but they are mostly a reasult of conflicting interests between us sound users and the (often paid) kernel developers whose main goal often is disk/IO throughput and fair process scheduling. Nothing to blame ALSA (or OSS) for. > Things get even worse if you are using an IEEE-1394 firewire audio-midi > interface (let me say, windoze is not much better), So, what do you want to say? > and although Jack is > in a better position than ALSA, ... because it's already at version 0.109.2 ... In my very personal experience ALSA is much more stable than jack, but that's probably hard to gerneralize. > FreeBob (FFADO) is still kind of beta. > > As for the above I should say I support PlanetCCRMA. Building packages > and getting things working sometimes is fun but it takes time and > patience. Linux tends to be not so generic, so that it can be customized > to several user levels. PlanetCCRMA is one of those levels because of RT > Kernels plus many of music, interface and DSP RPM packages that Nando > continuously maintains. FTR, it is a plus time-saver. > > Not to mention, Fedora Music group is very close to PlanetCCRMA and many > efforts which started as PlanetCCRMA packages, now have gone mainstream > into F8 and probably F9. Yes, but, short of dwelling in fanboy contry, could you elaborate on where PlanetCCRMA is different/better than the "other" Media-centered distros. Cheers, Ralf Mattes > --* Juan Reyes > > _______________________________________________ > Cmdist mailing list > [email protected] > http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist _______________________________________________ Cmdist mailing list [email protected] http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/cmdist
