Hello Stewart,

Sorry to be replying so late.  I have been quite busy with work and 
life in general.

Thank you for your kind words.  I will send you part one.

Yes, I am planning to contact Dr. Lipton and have a similar good 
conference in Toronto.

I hope to be able to share details shortly.

Cheers and all best wishes,
Cheryl

--- In [email protected], "Stewart F. Sklar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Cheryl-Anne
> 
>          What a wonderful synopsis of the 
> seminar. I did not receive Part 1, could you 
> kindly email it to me. I see there will be a 
> Montreal and Toronto meeting in January. Will the 
> Toronto meeting be similar in nature, i.e. held 
> at a hospital (PMH) with perhaps Dr. Lipton and 
> other specialists? Thank you for your continuing 
> good work and say hello to Suzan for me.
> 
> At 10:11 PM 10/11/2005, you wrote:
> >Hello All,
> >
> >As promised here is part II
> >
> >Before getting into part II I did want to 
> >mention another milestone that was celebrated at our meeting.
> >
> >We all signed a card and celebrated Suzan 
> >McNamara's birthday.  A significant date for us 
> >all - since it was also the date 6 years ago 
> >that Suzan received the word from Novartis regarding the petition.
> >
> >Dr. Laneuville spoke to us about a CML registry 
> >that has been approved for Canada.  This will be 
> >quite helpful to all of us as information on 
> >every patient will be entered into the database 
> >- blinded of course.  All sorts of information 
> >will be tracked, for instance a Hem/Onc could 
> >query the data for all patients with low Hgb to 
> >determine if it is of any prognostic value.  As 
> >you can imagine lots of information could be 
> >tracked and queried.  Hopefully we'll hear more about this in the 
future.
> >
> >Now for Dr. Ravandi's part of the talk.
> >
> >Most of my notes are from the oncology 
> >conference he spoke at here in Montreal the day 
> >before meeting with us, but then again, he 
> >presented much of the same thing.  If anyone who 
> >attended wants to add anything here, please feel free to do so.
> >
> >Dr. Ravandi also covered the history and origin 
> >of CML, and presented more data from the IRIS 
> >trial and the from information at MDACC.
> >
> >Dr. R. spoke about BCR ABL:
> >It is a tyrosine kinase oncoprotein
> >Auto and substrate phosphorylation
> >Highly plastic structure
> >"open" active versus "closed" autoinhibited 
> >state ( IM binds only to the active form)
> >State regulated intra-and extra-molecularly
> >
> >In speaking about Gleevec - Dr. R. said:
> >other kinases inhibited by IM are:
> >ABL
> >Bcr-Abl
> >PDGFRâ
> >c-Kit
> >
> >IM in the Phase I trial
> >
> >With 25-85 mg/day - only 1 patient out of 10 
> >achieved a CHR (complete hematological remission 
> >- meaning blood counts were alright)
> >140-250 mg/day- 10 patients out of 19 (53%) 
> >achieved CHR and 2 patients out of 19 (11%) achieved CCR
> >300-1000 mg/day - 53 patients out of 54 (98%) 
> >achieved CHR and 29 (54%) patients out of 54 achieved cytogenetic 
response
> >17 (31%) patients of the 54 achieved Major cytogenetic response
> >No MTD (maximum total dose/day) was reached.
> >
> >He also covered the results of the IRIS trial, 
> >which was covered already by Dr. L.
> >
> >Dr. R. presented data on survival with IM in 
> >newly dxed CML comparing results with IRIS to MDACC
> >
> >IRIS had 553 patients and 51 months out - ~ 95% were still alive
> >MDACC had 247 patients and ~ 98% were still alive.
> >
> >He showed data that was presented at ASH last 
> >year showing BCR-ABL levels continue to decrease 
> >with IM therapy in CP CML (28 pts on IRIS study Rx with IM 400 mg/d
> >
> >12 mos median log reduction was 3.0 and 46% had 
> >a 3 log or better and 4% had a 4 log or better reduction
> >24 mos median log reduction was 3.4 and 68% had 
> >a 3 log or better and 7% had a 4 log or better reduction
> >36 mos median log reduction was 3.9 and 71% had 
> >a 3 log or better and 32% had a 4 log or better reduction
> >42 mos median log reductions was 4.2 and 71% had 
> >a 3 log or better and 54% had a 4 log or better reduction
> >
> >Looking at IM 400mg versus 800 mg (presented at ASH 2004 also)
> >Of 175 patients chosen for the higher dose, 156 
> >achieved Complete cytogenetic response
> >of the 50 patients chosen for the lower dose 39 achieved CCR
> >
> >It is important to note that this was not a 
> >randomized trial.  That is why the Gleem trial 
> >is happening in Canada, as a randomized trial is 
> >needed to prove the higher dose strategy/theory.
> >
> >The RIGHT study looked at various doses of IM  - 300mg, 400mg, 
600mg and 800mg
> >
> >It had the following endpoints:
> >Primary:  Percent of patients achieving molecular response
> >Secondary:  time to hematologic response, 
> >cytogenetic response, and complete molecular response
> >  - percent of patients with undetectable BCR-ABL transcripts at 
12 mos
> >  - Safety
> >
> >Interestingly this study also showed the level 
> >of non compliance (as it were) in that it showed 
> >actual dose of IM over time.  In the first 3 mos 
> >all patients were completely compliant at 3 mos 
> >- 36 patients were still at 800mg, 8 were at 
> >600mg and 3 were at 400mg, by 9 mos, 15 were at 
> >800mg, 5 were at 600mg and 5 were at 400mg, by 
> >12 mos, 7 were at 800mg, 1 was at 600mg and 3 was at 400mg.
> >
> >The results of the trial showed that 7 of the 11 
> >patients who stayed at the 800mg dose achieved 
> >either a 3 log reduction or better and all 7 
> >also achieved undetectable. So I guess there is 
> >something to be said about compliance!
> >
> >He spoke about mechanisms of "resistance" to IM (Bcr-Abl mediated 
or not)
> >  - Patient not taking drug
> >- ABL point mutations going to conformation 
> >change of ATP binding site or modulators
> >- Increase in BCR-ABL, showing BCR-ABL kinase activity
> >- Metabolic, PK, drug interactions MDR clonal evolution
> >- ? other kinases - VEGF, mTOR, src
> >- CML no longer the main problem
> >
> >Speaking about AMN107:
> >
> >Showing the molecular structure he stated that 
> >AMN107 has a better interaction between ABL 
> >binding - improves the affinity of BCR-ABL to bind with AMN107.
> >
> >The conclusions from the Phase I trial of AMN107 are:
> >Hematologic response rates >50% in  AP and BP
> >Cytogenetic responses in AP and BP
> >No DLT (dose limiting toxicity) found
> >     Well tolerated up to 1,200 mg daily
> >      Rare liver, skin, or marrow AE's (adverse events)
> >
> >He spoke about Dasatinib - reviewing Talpaz's work presented at 
ASH last year:
> >
> >Of the 10 patients in BP, 50% achieved CHR, 80% achieved MHR
> >Of the 32 patients in AP/ALL 28% achieved CHR, 69% achieved MHR
> >
> >In the same group of CML AP/BP the CG response was as follows:
> >AP - 40% achieved CyR, 30% achieved CCyR, and 10% achieved PCyR
> >BP - 56% achieved CyR, 10% achieved CCyR, and 16% achieved PCyR
> >
> >Of the most commonly reported non hematologic responses:
> >Elevated ALT (28%)
> >Elevated Creatinine (23%)
> >Diarrhea (18%)
> >Paresthesia (10%)
> >Headache (10%)
> >Nausea (5%)
> >Peripheral edema (5%)
> >Pleural Effusion (3%)
> >GI Hemorrhage (0)
> >These were of low grad 1 - 2
> >Note:  we have heard more about pleural effusion 
> >in the current trials, so it will be interesting 
> >to see how this gets updated at this years ASH.
> >
> >He spoke about other things in the works such as 
> >Vaccines and things, but only briefly so.  I 
> >think I'll get much more information at ASH.
> >
> >We finished off by presenting Dr. Ravandi with a 
> >Moose so he could tell all his friends he went Moose hunting in 
Canada.
> >
> >I have to tell you this though, as I mentioned 
> >he had presented to a bunch of oncs the day 
> >before, he mentioned he got much better 
> >questions from our patient audience than from 
> >the docs that he presented to.  He was very 
> >impressed with our level of knowledge.
> >
> >We thoroughly enjoyed his company.
> >
> >Stay tuned for big news on more meetings coming in the future.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Cheryl-Anne
> >
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