Hi there, I just started on Gleevec and have been having the same problems. I just want to say that Tylenol may interfere with Gleevec and effect its concentration in the blood. So I think Advil or motrin is a better choice. I find motrin very helpful with the muscle ache.
>From: "Chrissy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: "CMLHope" <[email protected]> >Subject: [CMLHope] Re: Hard Muscles,pain and loss of mobility -Chrissy and >Laura Rose >Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:58:16 -0700 > > >Hi Barb! >I'm so glad to hear you are doing well! Thank you for your info about >Tylenol...I had actually wanted to take Advil, but was never told one >way or another if it were any better or not! I, like you, lived on >painkillers for quite awhile. Did you find heat helped your legs at >all? What about keeping your legs elevated? (Those 2 things helped me >the most, I think.) It is interesting to hear other's experiences in >regards to the leg problems, because as you say, it doesn't seem as >common a symptom. Good luck, and again, I'm so glad to hear you are >doing well and haven't lost your PCRU! Good idea too about the second >generation Gleevec drug, that just might make all the difference. It's >funny some people have the leg problems and some don't. Just another >one of life's mysteries, I suppose! >Take care, Chrissy > > > >Barb Stanley wrote: > > Hello Chrissy and Laura Rose, > > > > I read your posts with great interest. I have been on gleevec for 4 >years the 11th of this month. > > I did not have any side effects that affected my leg or arm muscles >until a year ago. What you > > describe is exactly what I had. There were very few of us. The legs and >arms felt like wood. They > > were painful, and I couldn't bend, stoop or get on my knees. I had a >difficult time moving around > > after I sat for a while. Massage didn't help and in fact, it hurt. I >lived on Advil for weeks on > > end. I was thinking I was going to have to quit work. I consulted Dr. >Druker and my oncologist and > > they both suggested a break from Gleevec. I took 10 weeks off and am now >on a reduced dose of 300 > > mg. It took 6 weeks but the symptoms completely disappeared. I am sure >it was gleevec. I did not > > lose my PCR. Now, the same side effects are slowly returning, the pain >and swelling but not to the > > degree I had, nor are my arms and legs hard. I can move with ease and >get around really well. The > > pain is not nearly as bad as well. I would not suggest this treatment >unless you consult with your > > oncologist. I will tell you it was scary as well. I am incredibly lucky >to not lose the PCRU. If > > they return again to the degree I had, I am considering asking for a >second generation drug instead > > of gleevec. > > > > > > > > Regarding Tylenol Chrissy- it is suggested that people on Gleevec do not >take Tylenol. The > > ingredient Acetaminophen does not interact well with Gleevec. It can >cause a difference in the > > concentration of gleevec. You might want to try Advil or something with >ibuprofen. > > > > > > > > Barb in AZ age 55 > > > > Dx 5-5-02 100% PH + CML > > > > Hydroxurea for 6 wks > > > > 400 mg Gleevec 6-11-03 > > > > PCRU 3-17-03 Zavie's club #409 > > > > Mother had CLL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > == 1 of 3 == > > > > Date: Sun, Jun 11 2006 3:51 pm > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > Laura Rose here -- Mom is having a problem with her muscles -- not sure > > > > if it's CML or Gleevec related? She has to let her legs wake up once > > > > she stands before she can walk, that is once she gets standing. Her > > > > muscles are really hard to the touch. I felt them today trying to > > > > massage her and wasn't sure if it was bone or muscle so had to ask her. > > > > She is really uncomfortable. She was hoping it was temporary, but it > > > > is not getting better. She is going to contact MD docs and Mayo to see > > > > if they can help, but I thought if anyone else was having a similar > > > > problem they could give us a heads up. > > > > > > > > Thanks a bunch, > > > > Laura Rose > > > > Mother Dx 2001 - on gleevec > > > > Zavies club #70 > > > > Alicen Rose cord blood saved 06/04 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > == 2 of 3 == > > > > Date: Sun, Jun 11 2006 4:04 pm > > > > From: "Chrissy" > > > > > > > > Hi Laura, > > > > I am 24, I was diagnosed 14 months ago. I have been on Gleevec all > > > > that time, and I went through a terrible time with my legs. It wasn't > > > > just that they hurt all the time, but sometimes they felt restless, > > > > too. One thing I found helped was lots of time in the lazyboy and lots > > > > of heat applied to the worst areas. A really effective heating bag can > > > > be made with horse oats and flannel. Just make a bean bag out of some > > > > old flannel and fill it almost full with horse oats. If you go to an > > > > animal feed store, they should know what you're after. Sew it up and > > > > throw it in the microwave for a couple minutes. It's like a cheap > > > > magic bag. It can be washed, as water won't affect the oats. They > > > > smell a bit funny but can be reused as often as you like and provided > > > > me with LOTS of relief. I used tylenol most nights for quite a few > > > > months, but that might not be recommended for everyone. I've noticed a > > > > big improvement in myself since January (after 9 months of treatment). > > > > Although I had a hard time walking or kneeling (I couldn't even fully > > > > bend my leg!), I am doing a lot better now, so much, in fact, that I > > > > can do anything I used to be able to do. Even my muscle strength, > > > > which I lost a great deal of, has returned. Best of luck and best > > > > wishes. I know it is trying at times but it will get better!!! Oh, > > > > and to answer your question about bone or muscle, it's probably > > > > both...at least that's the way it seemed for me. One more thing you > > > > could try is a hot bath, just make sure there is something comfortable > > > > to sit on if need be! > > > > > > > > Take care!!! All the best, Chrissy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C68DE7.115C6EF0 > > Content-Type: text/html > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > X-Google-AttachSize: 20116 > > > > <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" = > > xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" = > > xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40";> > > > > <head> > > <meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = > > charset=3Dus-ascii"> > > <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> > > <style> > > <!-- > > /* Style Definitions */ > > p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal > > {margin:0in; > > margin-bottom:.0001pt; > > font-size:12.0pt; > > font-family:"Times New Roman";} > > a:link, span.MsoHyperlink > > {color:blue; > > text-decoration:underline;} > > a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed > > {color:purple; > > text-decoration:underline;} > > span.EmailStyle17 > > {mso-style-type:personal-compose; > > font-family:Arial; > > color:navy; > > font-weight:bold; > > font-style:normal; > > text-decoration:none none;} > > @page Section1 > > {size:8.5in 11.0in; > > margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} > > div.Section1 > > {page:Section1;} > > --> > > </style> > > > > </head> > > > > <body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> > > > > <div class=3DSection1> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hello > > Chrissy and Laura Rose, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> I > > read your posts with great interest. I have been on gleevec for 4 = > > years > > the 11<sup>th</sup> of this month. I did not have any side effects that > > affected my leg or arm muscles until a year ago. What you describe = > > is > > exactly what I had. There were very few of us. The legs and arms = > > felt > > like wood. They were painful, and I couldnt bend, stoop or = > > get on > > my knees. I had a difficult time moving around after I sat for a = > > while. Massage > > didnt help and in fact, it hurt. I lived on Advil for weeks on = > > end. I > > was thinking I was going to have to quit work. I consulted Dr. = > > Druker and > > my oncologist and they both suggested a break from Gleevec. I took 10 = > > weeks off > > and am now on a reduced dose of 300 mg. It took 6 weeks but the symptoms > > completely disappeared. I am sure it was gleevec. I did not lose = > > my > > PCR. Now, the same side effects are slowly returning, the pain and > > swelling but not to the degree I had, nor are my arms and legs hard. I = > > can move > > with ease and get around really well. The pain is not nearly as = > > bad as > > well. I would not suggest this treatment unless you consult with your = > > oncologist. > > I will tell you it was scary as well. I am incredibly lucky to not = > > lose > > the PCRU. If they return again to the degree I had, I am considering = > > asking for > > a second generation drug instead of gleevec. = > > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>= > > </span></font></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regarding > > Tylenol Chrissy- it is suggested that people on Gleevec do not take = > > Tylenol. > > The ingredient </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3D"#333399" = > > face=3DArial><span > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333399'>Acetaminophen >= > > does not > > interact well with Gleevec. It can cause a difference in the = > > concentration of > > gleevec. You might want to try Advil or something with ibuprofen. = > > <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p>= > > </span></font></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size: > > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Barb in AZ age 55 = > > </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size: > > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dx 5-5-02 100% PH + CML = > > </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size: > > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hydroxurea for 6 wks = > > </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size: > > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>400 mg Gleevec = > > 6-11-03</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size: > > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>PCRU 3-17-03 = > > Zavies > > club #409</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size: > > 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mother had CLL = > > </span></font><o:p></o:p></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span = > > style=3D'font-size: > > 12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>=3D=3D 1 of 3 =3D=3D<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>Date: Sun, Jun 11 2006 3:51 pm = > > <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = > > <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>Laura Rose here -- Mom is having a problem with her = > > muscles > > -- not sure<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>if it's CML or Gleevec related? She has to let = > > her legs > > wake up once<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>she stands before she can walk, that is once she gets > > standing. Her<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>muscles are really hard to the touch. I felt them = > > today > > trying to<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>massage her and wasn't sure if it was bone or muscle = > > so had > > to ask her.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'> She is really uncomfortable. She was = > > hoping it > > was temporary, but it<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>is not getting better. She is going to contact = > > MD docs > > and Mayo to see<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>if they can help, but I thought if anyone else was = > > having a > > similar<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>problem they could give us a heads = > > up.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>Thanks a bunch,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>Laura Rose<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>Mother Dx 2001 - on = > > gleevec<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>Zavies club #70<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>Alicen Rose cord blood saved = > > 06/04<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>=3D=3D 2 of 3 =3D=3D<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>Date: Sun, Jun 11 2006 4:04 pm = > > <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>From: "Chrissy" = > > <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>Hi Laura,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>I am 24, I was diagnosed 14 months ago. I have = > > been on > > Gleevec all<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>that time, and I went through a terrible time with my > > legs. It wasn't<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>just that they hurt all the time, but sometimes they = > > felt > > restless,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>too. One thing I found helped was lots of time = > > in the > > lazyboy and lots<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>of heat applied to the worst areas. A really = > > effective > > heating bag can<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>be made with horse oats and flannel. Just make a = > > bean > > bag out of some<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>old flannel and fill it almost full with horse = > > oats. If > > you go to an<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>animal feed store, they should know what you're = > > after. > > Sew it up and<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>throw it in the microwave for a couple minutes. = > > It's > > like a cheap<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>magic bag. It can be washed, as water won't = > > affect the > > oats. They<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>smell a bit funny but can be reused as often as you = > > like and > > provided<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>me with LOTS of relief. I used tylenol most = > > nights for > > quite a few<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>months, but that might not be recommended for = > > everyone. > > I've noticed a<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>big improvement in myself since January (after 9 = > > months of > > treatment).<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>Although I had a hard time walking or kneeling (I = > > couldn't > > even fully<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>bend my leg!), I am doing a lot better now, so much, = > > in fact, > > that I<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>can do anything I used to be able to do. Even my = > > muscle > > strength,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>which I lost a great deal of, has returned. Best = > > of > > luck and best<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>wishes. I know it is trying at times but it will = > > get > > better!!! Oh,<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>and to answer your question about bone or muscle, it's > > probably<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>both...at least that's the way it seemed for me. = > > One > > more thing you<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>could try is a hot bath, just make sure there is = > > something > > comfortable<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>to sit on if need be!<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p> > > > > <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><b><font size=3D2 = > > color=3Dnavy > > face=3DArial><span = > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy; > > font-weight:bold'>Take care!!! 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