Dear Carolyn,

I am never afraid to sign off with GOD bless, it was just an example of what
was going on at the time, and as you already mentioned to let this go
already to some others that were still "keeping it alive".

It was NOT my intention to have any religious conversations or discussions
with anyone on here, but Ahmed was on at the time and we both started the
discussion which was about our different religions. . We now email each
other privately. Just to let you know Ahmed and I have learned a lot from
each other, even being of different faiths.

I am going through some of my own health problems right now and here is a
man of a different faith and is praying for me just as I am praying for him.
Now doesn't that beat all? isn't this what people are supposed to do for
each other, no matter what? This is how my parents brought me up...

Caroline, your "short thing" that does not have to do with CML is a part of
life about a health problem. CML is also a health problem, and if anyone can
help anyone with a health problem, then this is the right thing to do.

I have been reading on this site about so many good and concerned people
offering their  help and advice to other people that are in need of advice
and compassion. This is called being a human being, and it has nothing to do
with religion.

A simple question about coffee, and when it can be used, or a skin rash, or
so many other things that other people might find to be trivial, but it is
not trivial to those that must ask and those that can answer their pleas for
help. And this is also called being a human being.

I will end this with something that you touched upon. In the Jewish faith we
believe in our, and any other elders. We try to make sure that they are
always cared for, with as you just mentioned, "Dignity" and respect. It
makes little difference what faith they are as you just learned. Elders are
our background, and we learn from them. Besides, it is called a Mitzvoh (A
very good deed)

I truly wish your mother-in-law peace and tranquility as I know she will be
afforded it by those that care about their elders.

GOD bless,

Marty Gartenberg.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 1:29 PM, John Kuptz <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Dear Marty,
> Never be afraid to sign off God Bless .  My private email is
> [email protected].  Just a short thing that does not have to do with CML.
> My mother-in-law has just been placed in a Jewish Assisted Living.  She is
> not jewish but this is where there was an opening at the time we needed it.
> We are so impressed with the care and dignity that is shown her.  I have
> learned the Jewish people really respect and take care of their elderly.
> Carolyn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Martin Gartenberg <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:25 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [CMLHope] Digest for [email protected] - 5 Messages
> in 4 Topics
>
> Hi Carolyn,
>
> I would like to say THANK YOU, THANK YOU
> for stating what you just did. Yes, I did apologize and it is still being
> kept alive. What is wrong with some people? Hopefully this will now end.
>
> GOD bless,
>
> Marty Gartenberg
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 9:32 AM, John Kuptz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Leave it go now.  Marty apologized and said that they would use private
>> email.  The rest of you people are what is keeping it alive.  Let it go and
>> get on with living and dealing with CML.  They meant no harm.
>> Carolyn
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* john barrons <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2010 8:13 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [CMLHope] Digest for [email protected] - 5 Messages
>> in 4 Topics
>>
>> I do not believe this site should be used to promote anybodys religious
>> beliefs.  I am sure there are many sites available for that. This site is
>> for cml problems. I suggest if this kind of preaching is continued no one
>> will want to on this site or you will get all sorts of people disagreeing
>> and telling you what they believe and why.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* [email protected]
>> *To:* Digest Recipients <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2010 5:11 AM
>> *Subject:* [CMLHope] Digest for [email protected] - 5 Messages in
>> 4 Topics
>>
>>   Today's Topic Summary
>>
>> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/cmlhope/topics
>>
>>    - Uric 
>> Acid<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#126a3b2a69ed4cbe_group_thread_0>[2
>>  Updates]
>>    - Questions for 
>> Gleevec<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#126a3b2a69ed4cbe_group_thread_1>[1
>>  Update]
>>    - 
>> Update!<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#126a3b2a69ed4cbe_group_thread_2>[1
>>  Update]
>>    - 
>> Update<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#126a3b2a69ed4cbe_group_thread_3>[1
>>  Update]
>>
>>  Topic: Uric Acid<http://groups.google.com/group/cmlhope/t/965c93d13b3cced1>
>>
>>    Ahmed Omar <[email protected]> Feb 01 06:48PM +0300 
>> ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#126a3b2a69ed4cbe_digest_top>
>>
>>    Dear Marty,
>>
>>    I know it since the beginning that you have strong believe that God is
>>    only
>>    one true God, while in the other hand I may disagree with some of what
>>    you
>>    have said about Him in your post like "He sat back and rested", in my
>>    believe in Him I know He is perfect not like us need to set or rest.
>>
>>    Allow me to tell you who is the true God? that I really believe in:
>>    My believe clearly and beautifully answers this critical and
>>    significant
>>    question. It reveals to me more details about the one true God and His
>>    unique nature and qualities.
>>
>>    Some of the qualities that distinguish this true God from others who
>>    claim
>>    to be God are:
>>    - This true God is Creator, not created.
>>    - This true God is only ONE, not more! He has no partners nor equals.
>>    - This one true God is invisible; no one can see Him in this life. He
>>    is
>>    not physically manifested or incarnated in other forms.
>>    - This one true God is eternal; He dose not die or change.
>>    -This one true God is not in need of anyone like a mother, a wife, or
>>    a son;
>>    or anything like food, drink, set, rest, or help. But others are in
>>    need of
>>    Him.
>>    - This one true God is unique in His attributes; no one is like Him.
>>    No
>>    human description can be attributed to Him.
>>
>>
>>    Anyway today I send this prayer to everyone in our group:
>>    "O God, guide me along with those whom You have guided , pardon me
>>    along
>>    with those whom You have pardoned, be an ally to me along with those
>>    whom
>>    You are an ally to and bless for me that which You have bestowed.
>>    Protect me
>>    from the evil you have decreed for verily you decree and none can
>>    decree
>>    over you. For surety, he whom you show allegiance to be never abased
>>    and he
>>    whom youtake as an enemy is never honored and mighty. O our Lord,
>>    Blessed
>>    and Exalted are You."
>>    *
>>    *
>>    *note" This prayer I found it very effective epically when I suddenly
>>    wake
>>    up feeling pain or having nightmares"*
>>
>>
>>    Sincerely yours,
>>
>>
>>
>>    Ahmed
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    --
>>    Ahmed Omar
>>    Have you discovered its real beauty?
>>    If not ask me about it and I will help you to.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>    Martin Gartenberg <[email protected]> Feb 01 01:47PM -0500 
>> ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#126a3b2a69ed4cbe_digest_top>
>>
>>    Hi Ahmed,
>>
>>    I agree with all of your beliefs about GOD, because they are mine as
>>    well.
>>    When I say that GOD rested on His Seventh day, His Sabbath I mean that
>>    He is
>>    not resting in the sense of what we humans do, but rather is watching
>>    over
>>    all of us no matter who we are, and especially what we do to others of
>>    His
>>    creation, and that also includes His animals. Since He has already
>>    created
>>    everything He is always there but we are in his presents, and being
>>    watched
>>    over.
>>
>>    An example about Him being perfect: Take a beautiful diamond. No
>>    matter how
>>    perfect it might look there can always be found within it a flaw. Why
>>    did
>>    GOD make something so beautiful and yet there still be a flaw in it?
>>
>>    Nothing on earth or the entire universe and beyond can compare to
>>    GOD's
>>    perfection, and this is His lesson to us.
>>
>>    On another note; in a previous post you mentioned that you are
>>    disappointed
>>    about the effects of what you are taking that may prevent you from
>>    having
>>    any more children, if I am not mistaken... Well, just to let you know,
>>    I
>>    have known several people that even went through large doses of
>>    Chemotherapy
>>    and were still able to have healthy children. Not so for total body
>>    radiation, but I know that you have not undergone that.
>>
>>    So, Ahmed keep your beliefs in GOD very strong as your already doing
>>    because
>>    you just might be surprised one of these days [?][?][?] You know that
>>    saying,
>>    GOD works in mysterious ways...
>>
>>    GOD bless,
>>
>>    Marty Gartenberg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Topic: Questions for 
>> Gleevec<http://groups.google.com/group/cmlhope/t/42fe5a658dd86bb8>
>>
>>    "Jeannine" <[email protected]> Feb 01 10:09AM -0600 
>> ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#126a3b2a69ed4cbe_digest_top>
>>
>>    Has anyone had any side effects as Parkinson's with taking Gleevec?
>>
>>
>>
>>    Thanks,
>>
>>    j
>>
>>
>>
>>  Topic: Update!<http://groups.google.com/group/cmlhope/t/1cf422affcbf502>
>>
>>    Ahmed Omar <[email protected]> Feb 01 07:01PM +0300 
>> ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#126a3b2a69ed4cbe_digest_top>
>>
>>    Hi Lori,
>>
>>    Thank you for e-mail, which gives hope for me, because my doctors also
>>    told
>>    me that I will not be able to have new babies, It make me sad a
>>    little, but
>>    in the other hand I found this part of the test I am going through in
>>    this
>>    life.
>>
>>    I was in remission since Nov 2009, and still on Gleevec 400mg once a
>>    day, I
>>    wish for your daughter a very happy life, and to you good health.
>>
>>
>>    Ahmed
>>
>>
>>    --
>>    Ahmed Omar
>>    Have you discovered its real beauty?
>>    If not ask me about it and I will help you to.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Topic: Update <http://groups.google.com/group/cmlhope/t/9fc744886199960>
>>
>>    kellyelise <[email protected]> Feb 01 07:58AM -0800 
>> ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#126a3b2a69ed4cbe_digest_top>
>>
>>    Hi Maggy,
>>
>>    I was on 140 mg of Sprycel and suffered such severe shortness of
>>    breath I could barely gasp out a complete sentence. I was then put on
>>    100 mg a day and now I only get occasional shortness of breath which I
>>    noticed to correspond with "big" meals. I now eat small meals
>>    throughout the day and suffer no consequences. I also lost 46 lbs.
>>    which really helped, too. (Every time I check the scales, I've lost
>>    more weight). Don't ask me how I lost the weight, I really don't know
>>    other than by possibly eating small meals. (Wow! That's the size of a
>>    3rd grader!) I avoid too much sodium and fatty foods. Fatty foods seem
>>    to aggravate side effects. I quit taking the Sprycel with meals - that
>>    helped. I also take loratadine because of a constant runny nose that
>>    starts around an hour or so after taking the Sprycel. I finally kicked
>>    that miserable cough that plagued me every night either through it
>>    resolving on its own or by utilizing the above-mentioned measures. A
>>    small meal consists of a bowl of cereal or a cup of fruit with a piece
>>    of cheese for breakfast or lunch. Smaller portions at dinner. I also
>>    drink a lot of green tea with honey. Boy, do I feel better! I hope
>>    this helps.
>>
>>    Take care!
>>    Kelly
>>
>>    On Jan 24, 8:26 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>    wrote:
>>
>>
>>
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