I'm so sorry it has taken me so long to answer your e-mail.  Guess I wasn't to 
sure as to what to say.  I've had the joint and muscle pain before Sprycel, and 
on Tasigna.  I have severe Arthritis and so that's why I have so much pain.  My 
Oncologist just thought that Sprycel would cause it to worsen, so he made the 
decision not to continue on the Sprycel and switched me to Tasigna.  I know 
that this isn't a lot of help to you or your son.  I honestly wish I could be 
of more help.  I'm in a wheel chair most of the time, due to the arthritis and 
it continues to be a problem.
I hope that someone can give you the answers that you need.  I know how much 
you must worry about your son.  Take care, and I'll keep you both in my 
prayers.....Millie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: [email protected] 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 1:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Re: Millie


  Hi Millie,

  Can you tell me how you are doing on Tasigna compared to Sprycel?  My son 
also has the joint pain extremely bad, and is very worried about trying Tasigna 
because he is doing so well PCR wise on Sprycel.  If you would let me know your 
experience with the difference in side effects, particularly if the joint pain 
continues on Tasigna, I would be grateful.  

  Thank you,
  Karyn
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "C.M. Houtz" <[email protected]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 9:03:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Re: Changing to Sprycel not Tasigna after all.

  Hi Peg....Actually, my Onc. had me on Sprycel after Gleevec, but I had other 
  issues and he felt that changing me to Tasigna was the right move.  I have 
  joint pain, and one of the side effects of Sprycel was that and he felt at 
  the time, due to the fact that I was in so much pain, that Tasigna might be 
  a better option.

  I wish you luck with the Sprycel.  I know that it's a big move and can be 
  frightening to change meds.  I know that I was scared at first, but it has 
  been working well for me.

  Hang in there and let us know how you're doing.

  Many hugs,
  Millie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "peg" <[email protected]>
  To: "CMLHope" <[email protected]>
  Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 11:41 AM
  Subject: [CMLHope] Re: Changing to Sprycel not Tasigna after all.


  Hi Jeanie,

  Since Gleevec has been the gold standard in the US, many hemotologists
  are simply not as familiar with the other options as they possibly
  could be.  Now that Tasigna has been approved as a 2nd, sometimes
  better, front line treatment there is just an assumption that this is
  the next natural step for all patients who are Gleevec resistant or
  intolerant.  A kind of cookie cutter medicine, one size fits all.  I
  had sought a 2nd oncology opinion, who also recommended Tasigna, with
  no consideration for Sprycel.

  An additional problem is that medical care is sometimes fragmented out
  so, each to his own specialty....with doctors not really having
  problem solving discussions with each other, as a healthcare team,
  like they did in the old days. When my original cardiologist was
  consulted regarding monitoring of QT risk with Tasigna he did not even
  know there was another option, and as most non-oncology doctors he was
  not familiar with any of the TKI's.  It was only by accident that the
  oncologist referred me to a different cardiologist at the last minute,
  simply because he was in the same building making monitoring a bit
  more consolidated. Thanks to all the information and courage everyone
  at CMLHope provided me, I took it upon my self to educate this new
  cardiologist about ALL the options and varying risks.

  To him it was a slam dunk, the Tasigna just posed more of an
  uncontrollable risk for me than Sprycel.  Obviously this will not be
  the same for everyone, but it does go to show how much we must all be
  our own best advocates.  Knowledge is indeed power.  I thank you and
  everyone here for arming me with the support I needed to do this.

  Things are only going to get more complicated in a few years when
  Gleevec becomes the first TKI to lose it's patent and go generic.  We
  are bound to see many, if not most, US insurance providers limit
  coverage of CML treatment to generic Geevec, and not paying for, or
  charging extremely huge co-pays, for all other options.  Let the games
  begin....let's all pray for a cure to come before that day!

  Thanks again and blessings to you also, (WE can do all through Him...)
  peg

  On Aug 20, 2:55 pm, [email protected] wrote:
  > Hi Peg good for you and I hope you do really well on it.
  > I didn't think they gave Tasigna for anyone with a QT problem.
  > Blessings
  > Jeanie<3
  >
  > In a message dated 8/18/2010 6:59:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
  >
  > [email protected] writes:
  >
  > Hey all,
  >
  > Thank you so much for all of you taking the time to respond to me
  > through this. It has been a difficult week, sometimes leaving me
  > feeling almost bi-polar...with up days and down! You all shared
  > valuable experience and concerns that helped give me hope through this
  > process. In the end, today, after a cardiology consult requested by
  > my oncologist, the decision is to cancel the order for Tasigna and
  > submit one for Sprycel due to the additional risk posed by my existing
  > arrhythmia. The cardiologist felt that when he weighed the
  > risk...just in my case...of LongQT (tasigna) vs Plural Effusion
  > (sprycel), the Plural Effusion was far more predictible, controllable
  > and non-life threatening. He said that it was not one vs the other as
  > much as what the safest order to put them in was.... for me. But once
  > again, having a brother and sisterhood to call on has been, and
  > continues to be, an honor. You are all wonderful. Thanks again so
  > much, peg
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