Hi Jeanie,

You are welcome and....I take a beta blocker...Acebutolol 200mg, once
daily.  It is NOT contraindicated with Sprycel, and according to what
I could find, neither is Bystolic. The only problem I have is Sprycel
does drop my blood pressure, and so does Acebutolol.  So I take the
Sprycel in the morning and the beta blocker at bedtime.  peg

On Oct 8, 1:01 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Hi Peg and thanks so much.  I started on 150 megs because they  couldn't
> get my platelets and WBC down even after I blood apherisis.  I  stayed on the
> 150 for about 2 months until my counts were going down too low. I  was then
> put on 100 mgs.  I am in PCRU and it was proved by BMA but my onc  still
> won't let me lower the dose.
> Thanks again this was great!  My doctor wants me to take Bystolic a  beta
> blocker.  Do any of you take a beta blocker?
> Thanks
> Jeanie<3
>
> In a message dated 10/2/2010 1:19:05 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
>
> [email protected] writes:
>
> Okay...  for Beth and those waiting for the outcome of my meeting with
> the doc that  did Sprycel developemental research...here it is:
>
> 100mg IS the  recommended dose.  Does he have patients on less?...
> Yes...and here is  his criteria for reducing the dose:
>
> 1. Side effects (he says all side  effects on this drug are reversible
> with reduction or  discontinuation)...or...2. Zero achieved and
> maintained on PCR...verified  at least once with BMB.
>
> In regard to starting at a lower dose and  "tapering" up to 100mg, he
> said he does not understand why MD's would want  to advise their
> patients to do this, and cautioned against it.  He  understands that
> the thought is that it gives the body a chance to "adjust"  however, he
> feels that it also gives the chromosomes a chance to become  resistant
> and could result in Sprycel not being effective.  Sort of  the same way
> that taking less of an antibiotic than you would need to  overcome an
> infection allows the infection to become resistant to the  antibiotic.
>
> For those who are changing from Gleevec because of serious  GI side
> effects and are concerned that Sprycel might be the same... he  said
> that Gleevec is well recognized as the cause of severe gastritis  and
> severe diarrhea in many folks. While there have been some incidents  of
> Colitis with Sprycel, not many, and generally speaking most folks  will
> not have any serious GI side effects on Sprycel. However, a  break
> between the two is recommended to allow GI irritation from Gleevec  to
> settle before introducing Sprycel.
>
> In regard to pain medications  for headache, etc.... Contrary to
> popular belief, with Sprycel, Tylenol is  OKAY!  However, Aspirin,
> Ibuprofen, Advil, Motrin, Aleve, Naproxin  Sodium, or narcotics
> containing any of these ARE NOT OKAY.  They can  thin the blood too
> much when combined with Sprycel.  Caution must be  taken when adding
> any med to Sprycel that can thin the blood.  In my  case, I do
> occassionally use Celebrex, which can cause the same problem,  however,
> he said it is probably okay as long as my platelets are normal and  I
> only use it occassionally.
>
> He believes that current research will  soon produce something better
> than the current TKI's but for now both 2nd  gen TKI's, Tasigna and
> Sprycel, are stronger than Gleevec and should  produce better results
> at supressing CML in more people.
>
> Hope  sharing this is helpful to you.
>
> Keep the faith!
> peg
>
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