Dear Susan,

I am so happy for you being off of Gleevec and doing quite well. I hope that
this goes on for you for many, many years.

I will pray for your mother-in-law to at least have an easy time of it, and
that her suffering is very little.

You do know that you are her guardian angel...

*18's* to you both.

Marty

On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Susan Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Marty,
> You've really got a handle on it!   And I clear my throat to you, as well!
>  Things with mother-in-law are
> getting toward the hospice house decision....she can't get free of pain.
>  Thanks for caring.  Yes, G_d is really
> watching over us all, including you!  He will go to great lengths to have
> fellowship with us.
>
>  You are so right about the practice of medicine.  I urge everyone to
> listen to their body, take a leap of faith
> and give yourself a gleevec vacation....*if you are in molecular
> remission.*  A slight change in your log reduction is no big deal,
> believe me.  I've been off the med for four years now, and still functioning
> well with no gleevec.  Every
> day I am thankful for each moment.
>
>  18's to you all,  (LIFE)
> Susan
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Gartenberg <[email protected]>
> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2011 6:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Kidney function
>
>  And hi again Susan,
>
> I can understand your concerns about all of these drugs. However it seems
> that you are doing quite well without any of them. Now that is really good
> news.
>
>  Yes a diet and eating the right kinds of foods will certainly help with
> diabetes if you are type two. In fact the stem cell doctor would not do the
> therapy unless I lost some weight, so I did.
>
> You also have to remember that medicine is called a practice because that
> is exactly what it is. One thing might not effect someone while it could
> effect someone else. You are correct because you know your body better then
> anyone else.
>
> I am sorry to hear about your mother-in-law. You are a very good person for
> taking care of her when you have your own problems. GOD watches over these
> things and I know that HE is blessing you.
>
> Susan, *18* in the Hebrew language is the symbol for life and it is spoken
> as "CHI". It is pronounced like your clearing your throat.
>
>  *18's* to you Susan.
>
> Marty
>
>  On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Susan Zimmerman <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hi again Marty,
>>
>>  I found a match for a bone marrow transplant, my own sister Sandy.
>>  But....they advised using either gleevec, sprycel, or the third one...I am
>> going against my doc's suggestions to be on sprycel, because of the high
>> risk factor of another brain bleed.  I had one dose of tasigna...(can't
>> remember the other name) after going thru the hoops to get in a test group
>> before it was legal.  It gave me another bad eye bleed, so I knew it was
>> related to the drugs.  So from that I am enjoying no drugs for almost four
>> years, ptl.  I see that with this stem cell therapy I would not be a
>> candidate as I am not in molecular remission (thru the BCR/ABL test).  I am
>> over 1.0 now on the log of testing with BCR/ABL, and am keeping my fingers
>> crossed that I stay in cellular remission awhile longer.  I am so blessed by
>> God that I cannot express how very much He blesses me!  Staying in the Word
>> is my greatest help.
>>
>> I understand there is a third generation drug being tested and released
>> soon.  That is bosatinib, and I am hoping I can last til that comes out
>> before needing something.  Surely that one won't have so many dreadful side
>> effects!  Plural effusion with sprycel for so many makes me very leery of
>> it.  Actually, perhaps I will never need one!  Right now I am taking care of
>> my mother-in-law who is dying of lung cancer, and so all my energies are on
>> that.  God knows!
>>
>>  I am so thankful you received a healing from the diabetes thru that
>> method.  If I will be obedient on eating habits I can get rid of it, too,
>> without mortgaging my house again, lol.  I am not on insulin, just pills.
>>
>>  It is truly a great testimony to all that going *off* gleevec after
>> reaching total remission about 9 months after beginning it, that  gleevec
>> vacations are very very possible to rid yourself of all side affects for
>> awhile.  Each one is different, so go with your own knowledge of your body.
>>  Some of these doctors know just a little more than we do about how gleevec
>> and all of them work...
>>
>>
>>  What does 18 mean?
>> Susan
>> (Indiana)
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Gartenberg <[email protected]>
>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>   Sent: Sat, Mar 19, 2011 10:15 am
>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Kidney function
>>
>>  Hi Susan,
>>
>> I am sorry to hear about your brain bleed and the stroke that you had. Who
>> really knows if it was or wasn't caused by the Gleevec? The thing is that
>> your alive and in  cellular remission without any Gleevec. Remarkable! I
>> know that there is a guardian angel looking over you.
>>
>> As far as the stem cell therapy goes, it does work for diabetes but since
>> it is not yet approved I had to pay out of pocket for it. It was very
>> expensive and I had to get a second mortgage on my home, but it was worth
>> it.
>>
>> Before I was to start it I had to be in ABL-BCR and I was. I wonder if it
>> could also help with CML? I couldn't even venture a guess but the way I see
>> it is that why would I first have to be tested for ABL-BCR, and I asked my
>> stem cell doctor. He told me that if there were any active cancer still
>> lurking around then the stem cell therapy could bring that out again,
>> however that was only his guess because he had never tried it out on anyone
>> that has CML.
>>
>> Anyway, I feel that you are also being blessed because you are
>> in  cellular remission now.
>>
>> May you always be blessed by GOD. In fact I just said a prayer for you to
>> be healthy and happy.
>>
>> *18's*
>>
>> Marty
>>
>> PS my donors name was also Susan who was my sister. Unfortunately she
>> passed away several years ago of something unrelated to her bone marrow
>> donation
>>
>>  On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Susan Zimmerman <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Marty,
>>> Thanks for this report.  I have been off gleevec for 4 years in May of
>>> this year.  Two and half years on it, (dx'd Feb. 2005) and got off when a
>>> brain bleed occurred.  Now my docs say it was not caused by gleevec, but I
>>> have my doubts. I had a somewhat severe stroke last April without being on
>>> gleevec.  I am still in cellular remission at this point.  I have developed
>>> diabetes, (not related to the CML) so this stem cell news is something to
>>> consider.  Thanks for the insight and sharing.
>>> Blessings,
>>> Susan
>>> (Indiana)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Martin Gartenberg <[email protected]>
>>> To: cmlhope <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thu, Mar 17, 2011 8:08 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Kidney function
>>>
>>>  Hi "V"
>>>
>>> I am not on Gleevec or any other drug because I had a bone marrow
>>> transplant 22 years ago this May. Since I had total body radiation and loads
>>> of chemo I became diabetic, and have had problems with my kidneys with
>>> rising Creatnine as well as my BUN levels over the years.
>>>
>>> I was in stage four failure and was starting to look into a kidney
>>> transplant because I didn't want to go through the riggers of Dialysis, and
>>> now that I am a chimera (meaning that ever since my bone marrow transplant
>>> my blood type has changed from O+ to B+ which was my donors blood type) and
>>> my organs still remain O+. Since a solid organ transplant must be the same
>>> as their blood type this would put me into a very unusual position because
>>> my blood is now type (B+ and my organs are still O+) .
>>>
>>> I then decided to try something new, it was stem cell therapy and after
>>> six and a half weeks I have been cured of my Diabetes, however my kidney
>>> problems are still there but I did notice that from my last two blood tests
>>> the Creatnine has dropped from 4.2 to 3,4 and my BUN level has also dropped
>>> from 65 to 55 in the last two weeks.
>>>
>>> The stem cell doctor told me that if the stem sell therapy was going to
>>> work then it may take about six months to see. So far I have been out of
>>> therapy for about two and a half months. However he did mention that what
>>> would happen first would be my Diabetes would get better, and it did. I no
>>> longer require any more insulin, so at least that part of it worked.
>>>
>>> I just saw my kidney doctor and he said that my kidney function has
>>> dropped from stage four failure to now being stage three failure.
>>>
>>> He was honest with me  (my stem cell doctor) up front before I started
>>> this stem cell treatments by telling me that he has never done this before
>>> for kidney failure but has done it many times for Diabetes, and in a lot of
>>> cases if also had improved kidney function but there were no guarantees that
>>> it would work on me. This is because the damage to my kidneys was done by
>>> both the radiation and chemotherapy where the other patients damage was done
>>> by all of the drugs including steroids to try and keep their blood glucose
>>> in control. So, I guess that I will have to wait and see what happens...
>>>
>>> So you can see whether your on Gleevec or any other drug that is meant to
>>> help with CML there are always some "nastiness" that comes along with it.
>>> This especially goes for bone marrow transplantation. The bottom line here
>>> is that we all are still alive to do battle with whatever we have. I wish
>>> you the best of luck, and remember what I said about being alive, because
>>> every day that you are alive is a good day.
>>>
>>> My father once taught me many years ago, almost 22 to be exact, that
>>> every day is a good day unless someone close to you dies. At that time I was
>>> living in a small plastic bubble in a hospital for seven months. What he
>>> said just made me fight harder, and he was correct.
>>>
>>> GOD bless, and *18's*
>>>
>>> Marty
>>>
>>>  On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Victoria Reiter <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anyone found that their creatnine levels have risen while taking
>>>> Gleevec?  I know this occurs when one's blood pressure goes up for any
>>>> length of time but I'm talking about having normal blood pressure yet
>>>> creatinine levels rising.
>>>> VReiter
>>>>
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