Very interesting , good information .
The first time pcr explain like that .
Thank you very much .
Emile
no 527 Zavie's Club

-----Message d'origine----- From: peg Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:54 PM To: CMLHope Subject: [CMLHope] PCR BCR-ABL Results
Friends,

I do not post very often here any more, ever since I discovered that
when my name, e-mail address, etc is google searched, all my posts
here, that I thought were private, are revealed to the world, possibly
outing me to those I would not choose to give personal info to, such
as business associates.  I do still monitor the site though and will
often respond privately to old friends.

However, a recent posting regarding PCR BCR-ABL testing caught my
attention and seemed important enough to address to all.

PCR's are affected by many variables, including but not limited to
labs holding blood samples too long before processing.  RNA, which is
what the PCR looks at in the blood, has a lability problem, and
degrades within hours of the draw.  It can genderally cause an
erroneous low reading at anything past 36-48 hours.  Everyone agrees
that the best results will be on blood used within 24-36 hours of the
time it is drawn.  However, many labs will hold the blood far longer
that 36 hours, sometimes up to 72 before processing.  While this is
alright with some testing, it is not with PCR's!  Once the RNA
degrades you will get a false low reading, even a false zero/PCRU.

I am sharing this because it is important to understand that if you
get a PCR that is low (or zero) and the next one is elevated
again...this may mean absolutely nothing, if the low PCR was an
erroneous low!

Here is what is important to remember:
1) You should pick one lab and stick with it, since interpretation and
protocol will vary from one lab to the next.
2) You should never get your blood drawn on a day, such as a Friday,
when it will not be able to be tested the next day (unless your lab
runs PCR's on Sat.).
3) You should verify that your lab does not save cost by holding
samples until they have many from many patients.  It is better to know
what day the lab actually does PCR's and have your blood drawn the day
before.
4) You should always inquire what date and time the PCR was actually
run, and not just the draw date and reporting date.  If it is greater
that 36 hours after the draw it is probably inaccurate, the greater
the time, the greater the inaccuracy.
5)  MOST IMPORTANT - Do not consider any one PCR valid...but rather
look at the results of two consecutive ones, if you have two that are
both trending downward, this is good, if you have two that are
trending upward, maybe bad.

An extreme low in the middle of a downward trend, then one that is
higher (but still the same or lower than two PCR's ago) does not
necessarily mean that you have lost therapy control, it could simply
mean that the extreme low was erroneous.  Unless you are in blast
crisis nothing is going to change quickly, so don't panic. This is the
time to take a deep breath and wait for the next PCR, which may show
that you are still trending in a good direction, if you take the one
erroneous low out of the equation.

This type of error happens more often that doctors and patients
realize, and often pushes people into hasty and needless changes in
therapy.  I know, it happened to me!  Because of that I did a lot of
research, consulted with smart people, and picked a new lab that runs
it within 24 hours.  Hope this helps ease some minds and arm everyone
with some good info.  Remember, if CML is the bus, you are still the
driver and you should expect your docs to help navagate, not drive!
Knowledge is the key!

Keep the faith, peg


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