Thank you Marty I'll keep that in mind in case I win the  powerball.
 
 
In a message dated 5/2/2013 9:40:00 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

 
 
 
 
 
 
Hi Greenie,


I am so happy to hear about you getting a years  supply of Gleevec at no 
cost to you. 


I kind of know how you felt  about having a one years supply of Gleevec 
with you. I'll bet that you kept  turning around looking for anyone that might 
want to steal it from  you.


I experienced the same thing when I had to carry my  medication from the 
hospital to my home. 


If you should ever have  any concerns about your safety you might want to 
get in touch with me. Email  [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])   I 
am a certified home  safety instructor and I would be glad to give you some  
tips.


18's


Marty



On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 7:52 AM, <[email protected]_ 
(mailto:[email protected]) > wrote:


Wow Angie, your cramping story sounds just like mine, the  throat cramps 
and the muscle that runs along the left front side of  my  leg is worse. 
Mycar, I have a 6 speed Trans and I have to push the  shifter into neutral  and 
pull off the road and walk it off.  Well  I flew into Chicago yesterday to 
see my cancer Doctor at Northwestern  University and they canceled  my study.  
Northwestern is doing  their own study and Novartis is involved it to.  The 
good thing now I  only have to fly into Chicago once a year to pick up my 
med's. and they are  going to be free.  I don't have to keep a diary any more 
and their is  only going to be 2 other people in it with me plus 200 
globally.  She  told me that if I want to see a cancer Doctor here in Fort 
Myers, 
FL. that's  up to me, so that means I only have to get blood twice a year.  
I  started the first study on January 9th 2000 and have been on Gleevec all  
these years.  So their is a light at the end of the tunnel.   Getting back 
to the cramps I still use a bar of Dial soap between the sheets  to help 
with the cramps and it does help some what.
 
So they gave me a year's supply of Gleevec in a bag and I  felt like I was 
looking over my shoulder to see if in one was following  me to take it and 
run off with it.
 
You all take care,
 
Greenie in stormy raining Florida.
 
 

 
In a message dated 5/2/2013 1:12:43 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  writes:

 
I was really bothered by cramping for some years (I have been  on Gleevec 
for 12 years now.). I find that the best and fastest relief for  cramping in 
the feet is standing barefoot on a COLD surface. As my bedroom  is carpeted, 
I used to keep a large plastic covered book beside the bed to  step on when 
the cramps attacked. It was, at least, cool to my  feet.
Any  movement repeated a few times with effort will cramp me....peeling  
potatoes, polishing silver, cutting with scissors. I have even gotten a  cramp 
in my lips while putting on lipstick. The cramp of the throat  muscles 
while yawning is the MOST uncomfortable of all. I hate getting a  foot cramp 
while I am driving at high speed on a freeway. I tried  potassium supplements, 
and drinking orange juice when a cramp  struck.
After  so many years I still get them but they are fewer and farther 
between.  

I  always look around and see unfortunates whose lives are worse than mine, 
 and I am grateful for the ability to live a pretty normal life despite  
CML.


What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared  to 
what lies within us....
Angie


 
 


-----Original  Message-----
From: ICANDOALLTTC <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
To: cmlhope <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
Sent: Wed, May 1, 2013  2:28 pm
Subject: [CMLHope] Jim and Millie and all


 
Thanks Jim for all your support.  You there Millie? Just  wondering how you 
are?
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 4/30/2013 5:51:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])  writes:

Hi Peg, I also have the cramping, I'm on Gleevec since it was  approved in 
the USA. I was dxed 4/12,1997. I've experienced  many of the known side 
effects. Eye bleeds, cramping in the  legs(upper and lower), feet insteps, 
forearm, hands, I inquired  abut muscle relaxers and Onc. gave me some and it 
didn't help. The  legs and hands respond to hot water, the feet don't! My Pcr 
test  is negative that's a plus that we are so happy for. I'm 68 and the  
side effects aren't bad enough for me to want to venture into the  unknown with 
a different med. that may not even work for me or the  side effects are 
worse than what I currently have.
 
18s to all my fellow warriors we must never give up research  is making 
head way as never before who knows what they ill come up  with next. some day 
the big "C' will stand for CURE. I pray every  day for that AMEN. God Bless 
us all. Jim  Rodeghier 

--- On Mon, 4/29/13, peg <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >  
wrote:



From:  peg <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) >
Subject: [CMLHope] TKI  Spasticity
To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) 
Date: Monday,  April 29, 2013, 10:57 AM

Hi all,  


Sorry it takes me a while to catch up these days.  Just read Beth's post on 
spasticity and wanted to share.  There are many folks having muscle related 
problems with  all of the CML drugs.  The spectrum ranges from the  
seriousness of myopathy to simple muscles spasms, with  everything in between.  
Gleevec gave me myopathy.  Because I was not a good candidate for Tasigna we 
moved  directly to Sprycel back in 2010...before it was front line  approved.  
For me Sprycel causes such severe muscle  contractions that I have 
developed contractures in several  places in my body. At first we just thought 
it 
was my arthritis  causing limited range of motion, but then several months ago 
 finally realized what had happened.  I am in physical  therapy now to 
improve my range of motion.  We have also  had to radically adjust the Sprycel 
dosing...not just for the  contractures, but also the crippling fatigue, mind 
numbing brain  fog, bone pain and Sprycel induced depression.  The only  
time I feel really good now is on Sprycel "holidays".  


After many dose reductions here's where I am at...in 2011  we started 
dropping the daily dose....first 70mg then 50mg.  We also tried 50mg every 
other 
day, then 20mg daily.  All of these changes still held me at PCRU.  But even 
 at 20mg daily it was difficult to have a normal life.  There was also a 
concern from the specialist I see who  helped develop Spycel.  He believes 
that from  what he is seeing, the way Sprycel affects the CML is more  related 
to the size of each dose, rather than the frequency, so  he had a concern 
that 20mg a day would not hold the PCRU.  Although I have heard of cases where 
it is.  We also noted  that for me a "washout" of a few days off Sprycel 
helped me  recover from the side effects. Without that washout, the affects  
would load up.  So this was when we started experimenting  last Oct with 
twice weekly dosing.  Unfortunately  70mg still proved to high a single dose 
for 
me, so we did a  brief five months at 50mg every third day. However, the 
side  effects from each dose are still so severe, it is like sticking  my 
finger in a light socket, everything in my body clenches.  This starts two 
hours 
after each dose and lasts for almost  24 hours.  Every third day dosing was 
just craziness, since  I couldn't plan around that well...and found myself 
dragging  myself painfully through life every third day...hating every  
minute of it.  We finally realized that the only way I  could have any quality 
of life was to drop back to a twice a  week dose and take those days out of 
my schedule...just plan on  being down for the count on those two same days 
each  week. 


So we are now at 50mg two days a week.  I take a  muscle relaxer with each 
dose, and again at 12 hours if I need  it.  This really helps with the 
muscle spasms.  I lose  two days out of my week, but the quality of the other 
five is  much better now.  We are monitoring my PCR monthly to see  if the PCRU 
still holds.  


I can't recommend experimenting for everyone...it carries a  risk of 
becoming resistant.  However, the quality of my  life had become so bad that 
the 
cost of saving my life was no  longer worth it. Life in the absence of any 
quality is simply  not a life.  


For those of you who's reactions to TKI are not as dramatic  as mine, 
adding a muscle relaxer to each dose, even daily, might  bring the muscle spasm 
relief you need.  My drug of choice  is Robaxin...but to each man his own!


Warmest regards to everyone! 


Peg 

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