While I was on Tasigna I had to have two transfusions;  My onc at that  
time used anything under 8 as the sign for a transfusion.  I am on Sprycel  now 
and have worked on my hemg and it is now 13.4 which is a magic number for  
me.
Eating right and fueling your body often with good foods is a must.
Good luck,
Jeanie<3
 
 
In a message dated 6/27/2013 11:48:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

 
Hi Marcie,
 
Since I am on dialysis I get Epogen at almost every treatment. Even  though 
it is a low dose my doctor wants to give me at least twice the amount  but 
Medicare will not allow it. This also seems to be the case with you as  
well. I don't know what insurance you have but it all filters down to money  
and 
our "wonderful" health care system. 
 
You may also want to ask if you could receive Iron injections. It is much  
less in cost to Procrit and Epogen and it may help your system. 
 
Also if your not diabetic instead of drinking eight glasses of water  
throughout the day why not drink four glasses of cranberry juice (great for  
the 
kidneys) and four glasses of water?
 
You may want to stay away from a lot of caffeine and try to get along  with 
a bit less of it in your diet. I know you mentioned that you eat a  healthy 
diet but does include things that are high in iron? Dark green leafy  
vegatables like kayle and spinich. Red meat and anything with high amounts of  
iron.
 
I wish you well.
 
We have just about setteled in here so it is the rest of the summer to  try 
and enjoy.
 
18's,
 
Marty
 
Even with an 11 HGB I still feel lousy. Once I get up to 12 (rarely) then  
I begin to feel better.



On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Marcie Goodman <[email protected]_ 
(mailto:[email protected]) > wrote:


Hi Marty,


I don't know if any if our fellow warriors have experienced this but  about 
a year ago, maybe longer, my onc told me that protocols had changed  and I 
could no longer receive Procrit or other red cell injection as an out  
patient. It can only be given if you are admitted to the hospital. Perhaps  
this 
is just in Maryland or just at the cancer center where he  practices. 


I have always been told that my magic number was 11. If under that, I  used 
to get Procrit injections. And I was still tired. Now, it has been a  long 
time without and my red cells usually hover around the 10 to 10 point  
something mark. Fatigue is part of my life but I'm used to operating on a  
caffeine fueled morning and after that 8 glasses of water throughout the day  
and 
night and a healthy diet. Obviously, this is not a one size fits all  
answer. 


Hope you are doing well. How are things going now that you are at your  
summer home?


18s, my friend. 
 


Marcie

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On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]_ 
(mailto:[email protected]) > wrote:




 
Hi Wesley,
 
First, I have never been on any of the TKI's but had a bone marrow  
transplant more then 23 years ago. So that you understand more about  fatigue, 
it 
could be caused by a lot of things but in your case I would  suspect that the 
Gleevec may be playing havoc with your red blood cells as  well as your 
hemoglobin. 
 
A simple CBC could be a very effective tool to determine if you are  
anemic. If so then I would urge you to speak to your doctor and ask if he  or 
she 
may want to put you on either Epogen or Procrit. If your hemoglobin  is at 
or below 10 then I think that may be of help to you. That is if  either of 
those will not effect the Gleevec.
 
18's
Marty



On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Wesley Simon  <[email protected]_ 
(mailto:[email protected]) > wrote:


Morning everyone,


I have been silently  following this email list for a while.  I work in the 
computer  industry and am well aware that anything we write on here will be 
 searchable and viewable by the entire world, so I have been hesitant to  
write.

My question is about fatigue.  Does anyone take  anything to combat the 
fatigue caused by gleevec?  I read about  research somewhere in Texas where 
they're trying a narcolepsy drug  called Nuvigil to combat fatigue in patients 
taking gleevec.  The  research is ongoing and closed to new patients.  I 
called my  doctor's nurse and asked about something to fight this fatigue and 
the  doctor told the nurse to tell me there is nothing that can be done about 
 it.  I don't believe this.  In fact, the research I mention  above 
contradicts my doctor's view.

My next appointment is in  August, I'd like to have some information to 
take with me so that I can  have a potential solution in hand when I see the 
doctor.  I don't  have much faith in my doctor.  I do believe he understands 
what he  is supposed to prescribe and what the numbers mean, but I don't 
think he  has any experience in treating side-effects.

After two years on  gleevec, my number is 0.03% and slowly decreasing.  
Unlike  many of you, I have no desire to take a drug vacation.  My  
side-effects, other than fatigue, have been minimal.  I'd rather  treat the 
side-effect 
than change my dose or change the  medication.

I look forward to your input.

Have a great  day!

\Wes

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