Hi Marty,
Wonderful Sunday. Hope everyone is good. Thanks for the input. 
Jeanie


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> On Oct 25, 2014, at 11:23 PM, Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Jeanie,
> 
> Just so you know: The reason they would keep replacing the bag containing the 
> Morphine was because any IV will grow germs so they simply replace it even if 
> you don't use it. Same for the IV itself, they usually start a new IV usually 
> every there days.
> 
> 18's,
> 
> Marty
> 
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 4:17 PM, icandoallttc via CMLHope 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Marty,
>> It's Sunday and a new week is almost here. 
>> I can't even imagine how bad those mouth sores must have hurt!!!
>> I have had a few sores in my mouth but a little hot salt water usually takes 
>> care of them. 
>> I had the morphine drip years ago after my gall bladder surgery. Every time 
>> I would push it the place where my catheter was placed on my hand would hurt 
>> really bad so I wouldn't do it much.  The nurse would come in to replace the 
>> bag and would tell me I sure didn't use much.  I don't know why they kept 
>> replacing it when I wasn't using it. I finally asked the doctor to give me a 
>> pill and he gave me Percocet.  It worked better than the drip.
>> I did have some painful blister sores as side effects of gleevec. They came 
>> in sets if three and about the time one group would heal, another group 
>> would form.  They were very painful and I only knew of one other cml friend 
>> that had them. 
>>   I wonder if my side pain stems from the gall bladder surgery. 
>> I hope you are good tonight and wish you many blessings.
>> Jeanie
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Marty Gartenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jeanie,
>>> 
>>> Pain especially severe pain is the worst thing that someone could ever go 
>>> through. I have been through a lot of severe pain in my life. Having my 
>>> spleen surgically removed was really bad but then I had some very severe 
>>> gout attacks, but even worse was two bouts with the shingles. However the 
>>> absolutly worst pain in my life were the terrible mouth sores when I went 
>>> through my bone marrow transplant. It hurt so badly that I was put on a 
>>> morphine drip that I was able to control with a button. The only thing that 
>>> it did was to make me hullicinate and throw up. It got so bad that I 
>>> removed the morphine tube and went on with the pain. I just decided to put 
>>> my mind in a different place. The transplant nurse gowned up and came into 
>>> my bubble and held my hand in her gloved hand and whispered through her 
>>> mask three words into my ear. I always remembered those three words to this 
>>> day. She said "It's only temporary" and even though I suffered greatly I 
>>> would say those words over and over again. They helped me deal with the 
>>> pain, but it still hurt and I wouldn't let my mind soak it in.
>>> 
>>> 18's,
>>> 
>>> Marty
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 9:50 AM, ICANDOALLTTC via CMLHope 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi Marty and so glad  you are home; I pray that everything goes well. 
>>>> As we walk through this life, it seems pain is very much a part of it.  I 
>>>> try to cope, and I remember Millie telling me that she would cope with the 
>>>> pain as well as she could.  My sister has knee pain and I would tell 
>>>> Millie that she woke up each morning in pain; so I told her we could all 
>>>> join together in a prayer in the morning as we all woke up with pain.
>>>>  
>>>> Coping with pain is hard because you don't know what is safe to take for 
>>>> the pain. As Sprycel is already a blood thinner, and most pain pills are 
>>>> blood thinners, you have to be careful that you don't get your blood too 
>>>> thin.  I believe Millie had that problem, and she finally got a machine 
>>>> that would tell her how thin her blood was.  However, as my platelets are 
>>>> high, I probably don't need to worry about the blood being too thin.  
>>>> Those with low platelets would have to watch it carefully.
>>>>  
>>>> I was taking Tramadol for pain and it helped some.  I learned recently 
>>>> that it has been put on controlled drug list.  My doctor never told me 
>>>> this drug could be addictive, so I took it at least once a day.  Now I 
>>>> find out that it is addictive, and that you can't just go off of it.  You 
>>>> have to cut down gradually as it affects the brain.  If anyone is on this 
>>>> drug,  google it and it will tell you all about it.
>>>>  
>>>> I had my visit at Moffit yesterday;  it was good news.  My platelets are 
>>>> back in the normal range but still higher than I would like at 362k/ul.  
>>>> WBC were 7.75 k/ul and a little higher than I would like.  My onc however 
>>>> was happy with them and said I could come back in 3 months.  I told him 
>>>> about my jaw pain, and he said to have the dentist x-ray my jaw, so I will 
>>>> have that done soon; if the jaw is ok then the onc  might want to do other 
>>>> test.  The pain in my jaw is much better, but not all the way well.
>>>>  
>>>> ANC was high; anyone know anything about this?
>>>> Thanks Blessings,
>>>> Jeanie<3
>>>>  
>>>> Here is a copy of my blood results for those that are interested:
>>>>  
>>>> <jeaniebloodreportsept2014%20001.jpg>
>>>> <jeaniebloodreport2%20001.jpg>
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> In a message dated 9/23/2014 7:54:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>>>> [email protected] writes:
>>>> Hi Jeannie and everyone else.
>>>> 
>>>> I had my surgery today and just got back home. Hopefully everything
>>>> went well but I won't know for sure until I get my dialysis tomorrow.
>>>> 
>>>> I am still a bit woozy and starting to have more pain right now so I
>>>> will continue this some other time.
>>>> 
>>>> Jeannie, I just want to say how badly I feel that you have such pain.
>>>> I hope that it gets better very soon.
>>>> 
>>>> You see that this CML site is something that makes all of us really
>>>> care for and about each other. We are actually just like a big loving
>>>> family. Sometimes people that haven't experienced what we go through
>>>> really have no idea of what we do go through.
>>>> 
>>>> 18's to each and every one of us. Today starts the Jewish New Year and
>>>> as such we are all hopefully written into the book of life. No matter
>>>> who you may be no matter what your religious beliefs are I truly wish
>>>> all of you a healthy life.
>>>> 
>>>> I would personally like to thank everyone for all of their good
>>>> thoughts and prayers that you are saying for me and to everyone else.
>>>> 
>>>> 18's
>>>> 
>>>> Marty
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Richard H <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I hope your Surgery goes well.
>>>> >
>>>> > My prayers are being lifted and as always 18's
>>>> >
>>>> > Richard H.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Monday, September 22, 2014 6:34:30 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Good Morning to you Marty,
>>>> >> I sure hope your surgeries go well.  I    know you are a fighter and 
>>>> >> will get
>>>> >> through it all with your faith and great warrior skills.
>>>> >> I am fighting these high blood platelets and hope they are good on my
>>>> >> visit to Moffitt Thur.  I will let you know.
>>>> >> As you know, they have gone out of whack on me three times now.  I'll 
>>>> >> just
>>>> >> fight on as usual.
>>>> >> The pain in my side hurts more now than ever, pain meds don't seem to
>>>> >> touch it.  I deal with that everyday as with everything else.
>>>> >> Time to get a flu shot.  I take one yearly and it really helps me.
>>>> >> Do you go back to PA ever now?
>>>> >> You have a home there right?
>>>> >> I am going to visit my baby daughter the end of this month.  Just have 
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> get my meds first.
>>>> >> Well, Good luck on your surgeries; I am praying for you and all 
>>>> >> everyday.
>>>> >> Love and Blessings,
>>>> >> Jeanie<3
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In a message dated 9/22/2014 7:00:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>>> >> [email protected] writes:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Beth, I am very pleased to be hearing that your doing so well. May it
>>>> >> even get better fro you and everyone else.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I just had another round of surgery on my arm to correct the narrowing
>>>> >> in my blood vessels for the fistula in order to get my dialysis. This
>>>> >> was done eleven days ago and it still isn't working right so I am now
>>>> >> scheduled for another round of surgery this tuesday. This will be the
>>>> >> tenth  and it seems that this has been going on every two months so I
>>>> >> really need that kidney transplant as soon as possible but I still
>>>> >> haven't heard anything as when.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I can really use everyones prayers on this, and I thank you for them.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 18's,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Marty
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 11:17 PM, bkbarney via CMLHope
>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >> > HI all. Just wanted to offer my experiece to the mix. I have been on
>>>> >> > sprycel
>>>> >> > for 4 years in November, with some breaks for back/neck surgeries
>>>> >> > unrelated.
>>>> >> > In the beginning, I did get very mild PE which showed up on a chest 
>>>> >> > xray
>>>> >> > that was done as a pre-surgery clearance test. It was not major. My 
>>>> >> > doc
>>>> >> > did
>>>> >> > but me on furosimide 20 mgs plus potassium daily..and stated I needed 
>>>> >> > to
>>>> >> > stay ahead of any possible swelling side effects if possible. I eat a
>>>> >> > low
>>>> >> > sodium diet and take this med religiously in the a.m....sprycel before
>>>> >> > bedtime. I am blessed to have no further issues with any PE for the 
>>>> >> > last
>>>> >> > 3.5
>>>> >> > years. So, in my experience, I believe a daily diuretic with the 
>>>> >> > sprycel
>>>> >> > has
>>>> >> > truly helped me. I am also on a low dose which maintains me at barely
>>>> >> > detectable to undetectable......40 mgs. I am truly blessed. Hope all 
>>>> >> > is
>>>> >> > well
>>>> >> > with everyone. I miss you all. Still navigating back issues so not on
>>>> >> > line
>>>> >> > much at all these days...but keep everyone in my thoughts and prayers.
>>>> >> > My
>>>> >> > CML is in good control and I count my blessings....including all of
>>>> >> > you...take good care. warm regards, a 18
>>>> >> > s.....to all of you.... ( marty still prayng for a transplant..for
>>>> >> > you..)
>>>> >> > Beth
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> > From: LearnToBallroomDanceOnline.com <[email protected]>
>>>> >> > To: cmlhope <[email protected]>; pkshaub <[email protected]>
>>>> >> > Sent: Fri, Sep 19, 2014 11:23 am
>>>> >> > Subject: Re: [CMLHope] Re: Sprycel side effects
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Hi Peter,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > While it is true that many develop PE while on Sprycel; the upside is
>>>> >> > that
>>>> >> > the PE often coincides with PCRU!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > And unfortunately diuretics do not reduce the fluid that actually is 
>>>> >> > in
>>>> >> > the
>>>> >> > sac that surrounds your lungs. For me it usually takes a break from
>>>> >> > Sprycel;
>>>> >> > I know that many people avoid Sprycel because of this risk, but to me,
>>>> >> > the
>>>> >> > risk of pleural effusion is less of a risk that the ones that come 
>>>> >> > with
>>>> >> > Tasigna's Black Box Warning.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > My PE's have been more of an inconvenience at this point and 
>>>> >> > fortunately
>>>> >> > clear quickly.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Best to you all,
>>>> >> > Michele
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Peter <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> From what I have read here and elsewhere, it seems to me that Sprycel
>>>> >> >> will
>>>> >> >> definitely cause PE, it is only a question of WHEN, not IF.
>>>> >> >> For this reason, I have avoided this drug like the plague. Currently,
>>>> >> >> Tasigna is keeping at a 3.2 log    reduction, which is a sub-optimal
>>>> >> >> response.
>>>> >> >> My doctor keeps telling me, that PE is "easily controlled with
>>>> >> >> diuretics".
>>>> >> >> However, I have not heard this from anybody else.
>>>> >> >> Does anyone here know anything about the use of diuretics to control
>>>> >> >> PE?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Peter
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Monday, September 8, 2014 11:33:33 PM UTC-4, grammie wrote:
>>>> >> >>>
>>>> >> >>> Have been reading the reports of various CMLers having side effects
>>>> >> >>> from
>>>> >> >>> the various TKIs.  Jut wanted to weigh in with my husband's latest
>>>> >> >>> experiences.  He was short-winded and family doc ordered a chest 
>>>> >> >>> X-ray
>>>> >> >>> which
>>>> >> >>> revealed some effusion.  We reported this to Dr Talpaz (his CML
>>>> >> >>> specialist)
>>>> >> >>> and Dr T wanted him to have    an echogram which we were able to do
>>>> >> >>> locally
>>>> >> >>> with his regular cardiologist.  Dr T said to quit taking Sprycel
>>>> >> >>> immediately
>>>> >> >>> and not to continue until he and the cardio conferred.  As of now, 
>>>> >> >>> he
>>>> >> >>> will
>>>> >> >>> have another echo in a week to see if there is any change one way or
>>>> >> >>> the
>>>> >> >>> other.  He has an appointment with Dr Talpaz in Michigan the middle 
>>>> >> >>> of
>>>> >> >>> October and it sounds like they are going to have him stay off 
>>>> >> >>> Sprycel
>>>> >> >>> until
>>>> >> >>> at least then.  It's kind of scary being off the medication that you
>>>> >> >>> know is
>>>> >> >>> saving your life.  But Dr T is not concerned.  Don't know where this
>>>> >> >>> is
>>>> >> >>> going next.  All part of the journey.  Continue to pray for all the
>>>> >> >>> warriors
>>>> >> >>> out there.
>>>> >> >>> Thank you for your input.
>>>> >> >>>        Joyce in IL
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